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Hi Rita, Second attempt wrote a big posting to you this afternoon and must have been too long it just disappeared off the screen so will make this a bit smaller. I did smile at your posting, I didnt go to brigate and I never went to the barrows for anything to wear. All I went to the barras for was welks and mussels and Rossis ice cream first a macallum then a plate of hot peas then a carton of ice cream to take home. I saw in the Record a couple of months ago that the brigate has closed another piece of our history gone for people who had 3 or 4 weans it was their only means of dressing them. I did do all the other things though pawn tickets off the lorry and "Caley" cheques which went to "What Every Woman Wants" in Argyle st. I did get my first long evening dress from Maggie Cairney who lived facing you she was a hawker went to all the big houses in Newton Mearns do you remember them? they stayed one up no.53 she had two sons one my age Sammy and an older one think he was cal! led Jimmy. It cost me more to have the dress cleaned in a posh dry cleaners in Sauchiehall St. Pullards of Perth it had a sequined bolero and they wre the only ones who would clean it. I am going to finish off now in case it disappeares again.

Submitted by: Christina Philbin
London, England
29/06/09
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Records of Apprentices who served on HMS Empress 10/02/1915 to 10/03/1919 Clyde Industrial Training Ship-my father was a 'band boy'plus seaman.

Submitted by: Gordon MacKissack
Albury, Australia
29/06/09
Email: gordell@netspace.net.au


Anybody around from the old U.C.B.S AT mc Neil St Glasgow, region of 1960?

Submitted by: Gordon MacKissack
Albury, Australia
29/06/09
Email: gordell@netspace.net.au


Anybody around from the old U.C.B.S AT mc Neil St Glasgow, region of 1960?

Submitted by: Colin H Stewart
Derby, USA
28/06/09
Email: stewart9314@roadrunner.com


Christina/Michael McGrory/Ronnie Meldrum/ All this talk of the great Glasgow tradition of the sing song-usually carried oot whilst under the influence of copious amounts of bevy brings back memories. And yes it was a cardinal sin to steal someones song. Punishiable by the death penalty or at least a smack on the mouth. Remember in those days there was no tele, this was home grown entertainment at its best and worst. Your song was yours and definitely naebody elses. The Moffat family were very talented singers and entertainers from harmonising "Why did you make me care-why did you dye your hair" to the Egyptian dual sand dancing act with salt on the floor to the "old rugged cross" done with pious looks heavenward. Recitations were "owned" by individuals and formed part of their repitoire. "Three Craws sat apon a wa" was my uncle Allan's piece as was the "Charge of the Light Brigrade" Many a good belly laugh was had with that one, which of course included all of the actions. Other songs like "silver threads among the gold" and "auld Scotch mither mine", My yiddisha Mama still bring a tear or ten to my eye. One song more than any other makes me weep and that was the one my grandfather used to sing. It was generally known this was in memory of his daughter May who emigrated to Melbourne Australia-the lines "and ma heart is sae foo ah good greet when ah think o the freens that are faur faur awa" Brings tears tae a glass eye. And yes he did talk like that so nae moaning right! Take care everyone. Rita

Submitted by: Rita Moffat
Glasgow, Scotland
28/06/09
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FAO: Agnes I also get a lump in my throat to thinking back on old songs and family members who sang them. Don’t remember the wally dug song you mentioned. I do remember though that my Granny had two big wally dugs ornaments, one on each side of the grate. Cheers! Pat FAO Auld Biddy I remember well the songs you mentioned. I remember the “Drifters” singing them along with some of their others like “This magic moment” and “Save the last dance for me” Many a party we enjoyed while giving these songs laldy. I also remember some of those songs getting belted out on the top of the bus on the way to a party. Cheers! Pat FAO Old Timer Aye those certainly were the days with all the parties and singing. Your story about coming out the pub and an extra half dozen joining on made me laugh out loud but that was so true and just a fact of life back then. I also remember the Jim Reeves songs as well. I get quite a laugh when I think back to some of the characters and the songs they sang and how good they thought they were, some even done all the actions as well just for good measure. Mind you it was all good fun and great memories that’s for sure. Cheers! Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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25/06/09
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Hi Wee Blether; Your spot on the cafe was the Marigold, I remember they put the marigold stamp on all their bottles, seems like you had the same experience as me!! We used to collect bottles in those days, it was quite profitable, especially the beeries, but some pubs would not take them from you as we were too young so we used to say our Da sent us! All the best Melvin.

Submitted by: Melvin Bernstein
Glasgow, Scotland
25/06/09
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Hi joe toehill, i lived at 133 lawmoor st. next close to danny o neil. I remember you from the street, you might remember my brother eddie kennedy. I was a pal of ella watson. I was in Tenerife last year and bumped into mary young, I had'nt seen her since i left castlemilk in 1966, the youngs lived below us in hoddam ave. I was laughing when you mentioned marshals bike shop and jimmy waddle, I have a lot of great memories from that street. cathy kennedy......

Submitted by: Cathy Kennedy
Toronto, Canada
25/06/09
Email: cathykennedy25@hotmail.com


Libby Cameron, are you Tam Campbell's cousin from Ardencraig Rd.....cathy kennedy.

Submitted by: Cathy Kennedy
Toronto, Canada
25/06/09
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Are there any visitors who actually LIVED in the Gorbals? No-one from Gorbals st. or Norfolk st.? I've seen 2 from Portugal st. 1 from Surrey, and I from Dunmore.

Submitted by: Fiona
USA
24/06/09
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Hi Sandra, sorry to hear about Cathie how awful for your Mum, awful for all of you. Are Margaret and Tommy still around? was trying to think of Tommys wifes name was she May Mc Cabe from Sandyfaulds st.or Cumberland st? or is my memory getting mixed up. I have been away visiting freinds for a while and it has taken me a couple of months to get into a routine again catching up with all the interesting postings I must answer Rita Moffat next and several others. Does your Mum know where Tilly went to? So many things I would like to ask her. Does she remember an English lesson when Miss Gilmartin said "vanity vanity"all the class are looking at our exercise books for vanity vanity then she says "vanity vanity Mary Foster" your Mum was fixing her hair (a page boy style) Miss Gilmartin always wore cardigans with pockets and always had her packet of woodbine sticking out of the pocket. I took commercial French and shorthand your mother opted for domestic she told me how to iron a tablecloth correctly I have never forgotten it at that time most people had oilchoths on their table for which you could get some lovely patterns. We also had a music teacher Miss Mc Kerlin who would say "Open your mouth and let it flow out" not so much what she said the way she said it we all used to mimick her. Well Mary what do you remember about our teachers? Hope to hear from you soon.

Submitted by: Christina Philbin
London, England
24/06/09
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FAO: Wee Blether Gizzi was their name the reason I know is I worked with their niece and that was her maiden name. I am trying to find out the name of the hall. did you stay in that area for long we moved on 1960/61 and went to Castlemilk. Still in touch with a few people who lived in the Gorbals and now they stay in and around wellcroft place, see them nearly every weekend. Amelia

Submitted by: Amelia McKinlay
Glasgow, Scotland
24/06/09
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com


FAO: Auld Biddy I remember Billy Shankland and his sisters Margaret, Maria and Patsy. Patsy was a "witness" at my wedding. They came from Benthall Street.

Submitted by: Jim McQueen
Glasgow, Scotland
24/06/09
Email: jimmcqueen@yahoo.com


FAO: Iain Cleary, thanks for the info on Anna Rogers. Owen Dougan

Submitted by: Owen Dougan
Glasgow, Scotland
24/06/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


Re the laundry, or bagwash, in Cumberland Street. My mother kept lodgers, and every day, after school, you'd see me heading up the road with a pillowcase full of dirty washing, slung over my shoulder, like a coalman. For some reason, I was terrified of the poor old woman who ran it. Mason's sold the best cold ham, and broken biscuits.

Submitted by: Rose Doyle
Donegal, Ireland
24/06/09
Email: rosedoyle1@hotmail.com


FAO Pat Mooney. Aye Pat, you've opened a tin of worms regarding songs & parties!! Those were the days eh? I remember coming out of a pub in West Campbell Street [City Rendevous bar] about 1966, and by the time we'd arrived back at Old Rutherglen Rd, half our cargo was drunk, and an extra half dozen hangers-on had joined us!! But thats the way it was back then. Jim Reeves was another favourite with the wanabee singers.

Submitted by: Old Timer
Glasgow, Scotland
23/06/09
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FAO Sandra, Brighton I have tried to acknowledge your post 3 times with no success. So I'll try again. Your post was spot on and I totally agree with you. Cheers! Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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23/06/09
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FAO Iain hutton alright Iain I dont put the name as the last time someone was sending in posts using it, so I stopped putting it in as your new to this site youll find out to let you know who I am. I was getting you a ticket for the box in Ibrox so I hope no one else was getting you one as well or you'll still be clueless lol anyway your not far from me have you got another pub? as i will come through and get drunk lol let me know how your doing (AJ)

Submitted by: No Telling ye
Brighton, England
23/06/09
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My father john strachan born 16th feb 1936 lived in gorbals poss with aunties does any one knowthem looking for his family.

Submitted by: Shirley Strachan
Carlisle, Cumbria
23/06/09
Email: desmomd@aol.com


Anyone know jim & Cathie Donachie who emigrated to Perth Australia 1965. I lost touch when they moved possibly back to Scotland or England. They had one son named Stephen.

Submitted by: J Bonar
Melbourne, Australia
23/06/09
Email: jbonar@y7mail.com


To shona of glasgow thank you for replying, it was 1959-1960 after we dropped the delivery off we used to get the box of crisps i could not tell you the owner as we never met him, sorry all the best in your search best regards. bob

Submitted by: Bob Kidd
Bristol, UK
23/06/09
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I LEFT A MESSAGE A FEW WEEKS AGO RE: Arthur Sweeney, I think I may have got the address wrong, so ignore address and if anyone remembers Arthur Sweeney I would love to hear from them.

Submitted by: Big Mac
Airdrie, Lanarkshire
23/06/09
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To the fella who says his wife told him about the run on the rag mans cart its true as god my uncle was one so he came our house to see my ma and we got run up and down the st free we would say thats our uncle and all the weans thought it was fab ha ha anne and to the person who says they had parties in a two bedroom flat that was big time, try it in a single end with 9 weans and yer aunties and uncles all trying sing xxxxxxxx

Submitted by: Anne Brannan
St Catharines, Ontario
21/06/09
Email: anne.brannan.44@hotmail.com


Ann hannon [mc knight] sorry ann deleted your email address by mistake please get in touch again mags

Submitted by: Margaret Cox (Graham)
Glasgow, scotland
20/06/09
Email: magsmay44@hotmail.com


Anyone remember Scourgies shop in Roseberry Street? sold everything just like Arkwrights, also the Splash and Molls Mire pubs..Nothing left now. Remember Johnny Bonar..great left foot, what a football player..

Submitted by: Alan McLaren
Johnstone, scotland
20/06/09
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FAO: Amelia Mc Kinley, the cafe in Cumberland St that you remember as Gizzi's is the same cafe that I remember as? The Marigold)-- there were three sister's just as you said, but I could only remember Pima, and we just called it Pima's cafe, I remember taking back the empty ginger bottles, and one of the older sister's who was quite grumpy, would shout from A wee window at the back of the shop? IT'S NO OOR'S, then you had to point to the stamp on the label that said ( Marigold) and instead of giving you the Tuppence, she would throw you A couple of caramels. There was also A son of one of the sister's his name was Hassen Daeken.----Wish I could remember the name of the Baker's that held wedding's it was uo A flight of stair's and opposite Reid's the baker's. Wee Blether.

Submitted by: Wee Blether
Glasgow, scotland
19/06/09
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Owen Dougan, I knew Anna Rodgers she went out with Jim Magerson from Egliton lane when she was 17/18 I believe they got married, I worked with Jim as a painter and decorator for 3 years.

Submitted by: Iain Cleary
Glasgow, scotland
19/06/09
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FAO Agnes Neilson, Sydney, Australia. Glad to hear I reminded you of your Dad's party piece. The Gooseberry tree is a lovely song. Don't know where it actually originated. Something at the back of my brain is saying it came from the Jewish community, but I could be totally wrong on that. Will try to check it out and post if I find anything on it. All the best! Pat FAO Old Timer Isn't it great to think back on all the parties and old songs? I also remember Love me with all your heart and Crying in the Chapple. Great memories and I can almost still hear somebody at the party shouting "wait a wee minute, one singer, one song" Everyone seemed to associate a certain person with a certain song and if anyone else tried to sing one of these songs during their absence, God help them because they got told "that's Uncle Jimmy's song you're singing so it is". Still brings a smile to my face when I think back on it. Will post some more songs later and see if it brings back any more memories. Cheers! Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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19/06/09
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Anyone know of the Cryans of Sandyfaulds Road /St or Cumberland St?

Submitted by: Patrick Cyrans
Essex, England
19/06/09
Email: patrickfrancis@talktalk.net


Hi to all members of both the glendinning and moore members of the family Glasgow and world wide.

Submitted by: Glendinning
Glasgow, Scotland
18/06/09
Email: glenny1964@googlemail.com


Reading the stories about the parties, and the songs of old brought a lot of memories back to me. My Dad always sang "When I grow too old to dream" to all the Grandchildren, and he done all the actions to. Another song he sang was "The wee wally dug" no matter where we were, everybody asked him "gonny sing the wee wally dug" These memories bring a lump to my throat, and a tear to my eye. Agnes.

Submitted by: Agnes
Glasgow, Scotland
18/06/09
Email: agnesherrity@hotmail.co.uk


Hi Christina Philbin I haven't seen any postings from you either....Your memories of McNeill st fair cheered me up may a time-come on back you are missed. Sandra sorry to hear about your Aunt Cathy-I was brought up in 66 McNeill St and remember Cathy and Helen Foster. Christina knows the stories better than me- I think my Grannie Annie Moffat delivered Cathy into the world as she was the local unofficial midwife. The story goes that a member of the Foster family did not like meeting my Grannie in their close because she always smelt of Dettol and that usualy meant another wean born into the family! Ask your mum if she remembers any of the Moffats from 66-there was plenty of them! Cheers Rita

Submitted by: Rita Moffat
Glasgow, Scotland
18/06/09
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I used to live in the Gorbals in the 50s/early sixtes, lived in around Naeburn street left for Aussie but did not work out over there, I have travelled all over since and just come accross this site, wonder if there is still any old friends out there that remember me and my family we used to have greyhound dogs, Bobby

Submitted by: Bobby Bonnar
Islington, London
18/06/09
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Yip really sad to hear about the Colliseum was a great picture house, the first Cinerama in Glasgow, we used to do our thing when it was queued to the limit, with our takings, then it was straight round to Mollies for chips.

Submitted by: Peter Thomson
Eyemouth, Scotland
18/06/09
Email: petthomson@aol.com


I would dearly love some information on my mums family, we know so little. Mums name was Mary Mcdonald or WOOD and was know as myra. her mother was jean McDonald and we think she married a man named Wood. My grandmother drowned in the clyde in the early stages of world war 2, the railings had been removed for the war effort and she tripped and fell in. (That is the story as we know it. We think my great granddad was a Tailor. if anyone has any info we would all be really pleased to hear from you. many thanks. Diane. contact on dianekelly963@hotmail.com

Submitted by: Diane Kelly
Upper Hut, New Zealand
18/06/09
Email: dianekelly963@hotmail.com


To the person who asked me a question saying he met me, how would I know mate? if you dont tell me yer name? Daft question eh. but have noticed that a lot of people here are anonymous, why, how can you find old friends if they are disguising themselves for whatever reasons, seems a lot people that rite in good stories sign off with there name, have a good day all Iain

Submitted by: Iain Hutton
Portsmouth, England
18/06/09
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Although only 61 'ish, I remember parties when there was "one singer, one song"..... who remembers the Tamla Motown parties, Under the Boardwalk, Saturday Night at the Movies and so on? Used to have some great nights, spinning that old bottle! I remember some great guys from that era! 1966'ish - names of Shankland, Donachy (anyone any recall)?

Submitted by: Auld Biddy
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17/06/09
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Re: Pema's cafe. we lived at cumberland st and abbotsford pl corner and I remember Pemas cafe, well in fact I have often thought to myself was it really called Pemas or am I not remembering corectly but as soon as I saw the name on the post I knew instantly. I remember that when you walked in on the right was a glass counter where you paid and I also remember you could walk further in and there was tables and a hatch at the end of this room where the food was served from and to the left of this hatch was a one armed bandit if I can remember correctly, I was always trying to het two cherries and a bar tyo win. I also remember the other shops mentioned. if I rememember right Pemas was beside the dairy as was said and then as you moved towards abbotsford place there was then a lane. after the lane I think the chemist, Mcindoes dairy which used to do lovely tunnocks steak pies. I think then the entrance to the function room upstairs (Which later on became the talbot centre I think for people with drink problems) there was then a paper shop I think called Browns, then a laundry, I think the man was polish and then at the corner was a shop caled Galbraiths or templeteons or something I cant quite rememeber. Then abbotsford place and then on the next corner was an Indian garmet factory I think which was on the ground floor and basement. across the other corner from that was Taylor Reeson Laboratories which was also in a basement and then a close and then alexander arbuckle also on the ground flor and basement. then a lane then the orange hall, then the bakery. and then up at the coner of cumber land street and eglinton street the licenced grocers, I think called Bullochs. Anyone recognise these?

Submitted by: G5
Ireland
17/06/09
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Hi, Ann Docherty, regarding the Dochertys, the old man worked in Teachers next door as a barman for awhile, Jim joined the navy, the girls I remember but cannot remember their names, Masons had two counters one on each side of the shop, nice people used to go there a lot, the cafe was italian I believe was it called Izas, Im not sure, but I remember as a youngster going there with a load of ginger bottles they were worth a penny each, but they would not take them from me, because they had a stamp on all their bottles!Nice talking to you Ann, Melvin.

Submitted by: Melvin
Glasgow, Scotland
17/06/09
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Just been to las vegas for the NAFCS convention 91 people from the gorbals not an angry word said in amongst 2000 people of all nationalities who says the people of the gorbals dont know how to conduct themselves we are the salt of the earth

Submitted by: Gorbals Bhoy
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17/06/09
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JOHN BONNAR just to let you know mate jim mccusker, cuskie passed away 14 years ago 16 7 94 massive heart attack cheers mate

Submitted by: John
Gorbals, Glasgow
17/06/09
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Hi there just heard about this site from a friend i was born in moffat st 1949 wemt to hayfield primary and remember every xmas santa came out of mclintocks sweet factory and threw sweeties into the playground anyone out there from that area it would be great to hear from you.

Submitted by:Jean Innes (nee jamieson?)
Fort William, Scotland
16/06/09
Email: lochaber_lady@hotmail.com


Hi everyone, I have just discovered your site and I'm enjoying reading your fond memories. I grew up just off McNeil St and also loved to go along with mum on a Friday night to dirty maggie's and get fish and chips before going home and watch TV. My mum was divorced when I was young and it was hard but the experiences I had were still wonderful and has made me the person I am today. The people were friendly and we didn't realise we were poor. My grandfather and mum's younger brother lived with us. I went to Adelphi Terrace around 1961 to 1965. Would like to hear from anyone who remembers me, I was very quiet, mum was unhappy and I didn't get the attention I would have had if her marriage had succeeded but we all had our problems. I didn't bloom until I left school, went back to college and then university. I teach in a local university and have a good husband. Took me a while to catch up, but I did and as I said, partly it was because of the people around me growing up, good and bad expe! riences.

Submitted by: Isabella (Poland, Cains) Corfield
Stockton on Tees, England
16/06/09
Email: icpcorfield@hotmail.com


FAO: Ann in Canada the cafe that you were talking about was Gizzis there were 3 sisters Pema, Pama and Rosie or Rosa it was next to Hazeldeans dairy and then further along going towards Abbotsford Place there was also McIndoes the dairy who sold the milk from the big silver urns and also a chemist. Above those shops was a hall that held weddings or dances in it cannot remember its name but will find out. Knew the Mason shops some of the boys had red hair if I can recall. Amelia

Submitted by:Amelia McKinlay
Glasgow, Scotland
15/06/09
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com


FAO: Ray I remember the furniture shop that you were talking about it was painted red next to the cafe. I think it was called Getlins but I will find out from my brother There was also a chip shop I think it was called the Broadway might be wrond as the old brain is getting addled with old age and also the wee shop that sold the clothes round in hospital st was a shop called Christies wee used to buy my dads tobacco from it. There was also a shop called the beehive on Cumberland St and then Galls was at the corner of Cumberland St. and Crown St. Amelia

Submitted by:Amelia McKinlay
Glasgow, Scotland
15/06/09
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com


F.A.O BOB KIDD, hi there, thank you very much for the info on the crisp factory. if you dont mind me asking what year did you deliver to them and do you know if it was an italian who owned it? sorry i can't explain my interest in it but its important to a member of my family, thanks again shona

Submitted by: Shona
Glasgow, Scotland
15/06/09
Email: shonzi@hotmail.co.uk


Yes, I'm being biased, but great to read about anecdotes relating to the Laurieston area of the old Gorbals. I didn't reside in Laurieston until I was 15 [1967] in Oxford Street. But I have fond memories of working in the Co-op, Morrison St, and using the old subway from Bridge St to Ibrox for football. Left Laurieston in 1973 due to compulsary purchase!! I moved to Manchester in 1977 but still visit my brother in Pollock.

Submitted by: Colin O'Hara
Manchester, England
15/06/09
Email: Colo64@hotmail.com


FAO Pat Mooney: Yes Pat, spot on with songs + parties. That's what our parents did for entertainment. My late father would come home with friends from the Broomielaw where he worked on the Glasgow-Belfast ferry's, we lived in Bridge St, Laurieston [3 up], and the two songs I can still hear today is : Love Me With All Your Heart by Karl Denver, & Crying In The Chapple by Elvis Presley. Hard to imagine anyone holding a party in a tiny 2 bedroom tenement flat with an outside toilet, but thats what they did back in the early 60's! Cheers!

Submitted by: Old Timer
Glasgow, Scotland
15/06/09
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Re songs sung at parties years ago. My dads party piece was the song The Gooseberry Tree, I have never heard it sung anywhere else, never knew from where it originated. Thank you to Pat Mooney for reminding me, my dad John Cuddihy died 1990.

Submitted by: Agnes Neilson
Sydney, Australia
15/06/09
Email: agnesn@tpg.com.au


I didn't come from the Gorbals although I stayed in "Hutchinson Town" for a couple of years after I got married. My wife was brought up ion the Gorbals her name is May Roberts and her dad was the local coal man for a while (with horse and cart). She tells me that there used to be a horse and cart came round the streets and charged the kids a penny for a hurl. Can anyone confirm this?

Submitted by: Jim Mcqueen
Glasgow, Scotland
15/06/09
Email: jimmcqueen@yahoo.com


Hi, Christina Philbin. Hope all is well, have not seen any postings lately. My mum is now back in her own home and adjusting slowly without Linda. Unfortunately her sister Cathie (Foster) died very suddenly two weeks ago and this has shaken us all totally. Hope to hear from you soon Christina....Love Sandra

Submitted by: Sandra
East Kilbride, Glasgow
14/06/09
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Hi Melvin I knew the Docherty family who lived up Masons (wee grocer shop). I also knew Graham's who lived up the same close. Do you remember Pema's cafe, I don't know if Iam spelling the name right, her sisters name was Pama. The cafe was accross the St from Masons shop.

Submitted by: Ann Docherty
Canada
13/06/09
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I am looking for anyone who may have remembered my late mum and her two brothers Alec and Peter. Their parents were called Peter,and Bridget Mc Ginty, Grandmothers maiden name was Daly, not sure of the spelling. They stayed in Cavendish street, or lane.My mum was about three years old when her mum died she did not remember very much about her except she may have had dark long hair, she remembered being taken to the chapel St Francis and seeing the candles burning, perhaps she may have been a little older than three. When she was younger a lady called Jenny looked after her so that my grandfather could go out to work. When she was older she worked in a printers called Millar and Lang in Glasgow,when her father died in 1947-1948 , she got married to my father in St Constantines church in Govan. they stayed in Langlands Road. She sometimes spoke about a friend called Phylis Mc Neeney, who may have been the best maid at her wedding.My Uncle Peter, m oved to Chester, my mu! m. never heard from him again, my Uncle Alec got married to Bella Bradley, who I think was from the Gorbals, she had two sisters called Jeanie, and Mary, There may have been some brothers in the family. My Grandmother had a sister called Agnes, she married a Jewish man named Segal.I think she had a son, name unknown, this was a long time ago, do not know anything about my Grandfathers family . I only knew my Uncle Alec, and Auntie Bella, they had three daughters, Janette, Maryanne, and Sandra, if you are out there somewhere, hullo from your cousin Patricia Anne, Aunty Alice,s daughter.Ihave a sister Mary who stays in Witney outside Oxfordshire she was born in 1950 and I was born in 1951 my mum lost her first baby he was stillborn and he would have been named Peter had he lived. I would much appreciate any information or stories anyone can give me on my Mothers family history, thankyou again I am so proud to say that my wee mum came from the GOOD OLD GORBALS/// !

Submitted by: Patricia Barr
Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
13/06/09
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Does anyone remember a furniture shop at the corner of cumberland st.and cumberland lane opposite carrols the bookie.and a drapers shop on the corner of cumberland st. and hospital st.I CAN REMEMBER the shops does anyone know the owners names.also does anyone have any info on young willie mc millan whos dad owned gorbals metals in gorbals st.these shops were all there from the mid 1950s.

Submitted by: Ray
Glasgow, Scotland
13/06/09
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fao: Joe Toehill, did you know a girl by the name of Anna Rodgers who lived in lawmoor street back in the 40/50s, she would be about 13/14 years old around 1949. her parents were lithuanian.

Submitted by: Owen Dougan
Glasgow, Scotland
13/06/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


Hello Joe. Did you know Billy & Jim Grainger who lived up Coharen close Jimmy Brady he lived in the ground floor I think same address as you also Murhpy fruit store at Rutherglen rd McPherson store on Ballater st and Bells dairy. Thomas K Donnelly 62 Lawmoor st.

Submitted by: Thomas Kelly Donnelly
Gorbals, Glasgow
13/06/09
Email: weecheekyman@msn.com


Here's A wee silly joke tae cheer ye up---It's Sunday morning and wee Charlie's late for chapel, hurrying to get out the door, grabbing A big bit of dumpling from the table and sticking it up his jumper to keep warm,--- he runs as fast as he can all the way to the chapel , the priest has finished the cermon and announces in A loud voice---( And remember children God is everywhere)--- wee Charlie say's--- Ah hope he's no up ma jumper eetin ma dumlin)?---Wee Blether.

Submitted by: Wee Blether
Scotland
12/06/09
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Have great childhood memories of all the old songs that were sung at the family parties held at the New Year. Here's some I remember. "Leave the rest of the world behind" "You always hurt the one you love" "I know a millionaire" "I'll keep on changing partners" "The Gooseberry tree" "You made me love you" "The Rock and Roll Waltz" "We all make mistakes" "Paper Roses" "Don't forget me little darling" "If I had my life to live over" "Birth of the blues" "Frankie and Johnny were lovers" "You're free to go darling" "When I grow too old to dream" and "We'll meet again". As kids we loved these parties and the songs. Think some of you folks may recall a few of them. Cheers! Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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12/06/09
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I lived at 115 lawmoor st in between rutherglen rd/ballater st.had a happy childhood there. so many characters lived about us. does anybody remember danny and eddie o'neil who ran a sheebeen also sammy and donald pedin, wullie telfer judy cohen a little jewish man who sold secondhand furniture. also a westindian man mr marshall who opened a deralict shop to hire out old bicycles at 2/6 a day he lost half his bikes in a week!. best pals were joey reagan, john young, john thom, billy jackson ,eddie lyon, andy baldie. By the way i lived there from 1941 until 1958 then moved to 19 scarrel drive castlemilk.

Submitted by: Joe Toehill
Bradford, Yorkshire
12/06/09
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FAO: Jean, the song, "twelve and tanner a bottle" can be found on the Wyle Fyfe album, "I belong to Glasgow".

Submitted by: Owen Dougan
Glasgow, Scotland
12/06/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


F.A.O. Jean U.S.A. I remember twelve and a tanner a bottle, it was the first record we got for our new record player and we got it second hand in a wee shop in Crown St. down near the Crownie picture house. It was either Harry Lauder or Will Fyfe who sang it. On the reverse side was the unforgettable It's Clinking to be Linking. The words are as follows Twelve and tanner a bottle, That's what they're askin' the day. Twelve and a tanner a bottle, man it takes aw the pleasure away, Before you can huv a wee drappie, you have to spend aw that you,ve got, Ach! how can a fella be happy, when happiness costs such a lot. cheers Nan

Submitted by: Nan Cameron
Glasgow, Scotland
12/06/09
Email: partickbelle@hotmail.co.uk


FAO Owen: Thanks for that Glesga Wean site. Does anyone remember " twelve and a tanner a bottle?"

Submitted by:Joan
USA
11/06/09
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This is my first anecdote to the forum via my daughter's laptop!! Been reading through hundreds of messages, took me hours, but it's been amazing to read about people I knew from the best district on Earth simply known as Oatlands. John Bonnar : Is Cuskie also Harry McCusker? Many moons ago I ran around with Dom McComiskey, John-Jo Taylor, Chic Croft, all from Oatlands. I attended Bonnies but left prematurely in 1970!! It saddens me to see the Oatlands I knew all but disappeared.

Submitted by: Willie Munro
Cumbernauld, Scotland
11/06/09
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FAO: TEN QUID I received a E mail from your brother John concerning my grandfather James Boyle. I believe he was your uncle. He stated that you may know more and perhaps even might have a photo. My mother Agnes was one of his eight daughters. Thanks for your time George Duncan

Submitted by: George Duncan
Glasgow, Scotland
11/06/09
Email: GEORGE.DUNCAN@SKY.COM


I was born in 23 Mathieson St 1933 Went To St Francis School then Holyrood Worked in LindsayMaid as a machinist Moved to Drumchapel 1954 Worked in Singers Clydebank 1954- 1961 Would love to hear from anyone who remembers me.

Submitted by: Molly D"Agostino (Nee Igoe)
Gold Coast, Australia
11/06/09
Email: dagos@dodo.com.au


Dear shona of glasgow the name of the crisp factory was beatties used to deliver char to them the rear entrance was down the lane across from the clock bar in bedford street. regards bob

Submitted by: BOB KIDD
Bristol, UK
11/06/09
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Hi everyone although I never lived in the gorbals both my parents were brought up there, and my dear Gran, Violet McCafferty lived there all her life, only recently departing to be with her God. My father believes their first home was 5 Lawmour St, where they took in lodgers he also remembers my Gran's family had a shoe factory, her maiden name was McGhee, does anyone have any information on the shoe factory.

Submitted by: Helen Davis
Kilbirnie, Scotland
11/06/09
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Hi Tam, lost your email, this is mine. Look forward to hearing from you danny.

Submitted by: Danny Broadley
Glasgow, Scotland
10/06/09
Email: dan.b1@live.co.uk


What a sad sight I seen today. The Colloseum building in Eglington st raised to the ground, after a fire last week. I first remember it as the Picture hall my Mum & Dad took me to in the 50s when we lived in bedford street. Then when my kids were growing up we took them there on a Saturday afternoon. As the years past and it closed as a picture hall I spent many years in there playing bingo, not with a lot of luck I must say, but I met a lot of good people there, I felt sad today when I seen it. Any old pals from the bingo out there. AGNES.

Submitted by: Agnes
Glasgow, Scotland
10/06/09
Email: agnesherrity@hotmail.co.uk


Many thanks for trying to help me find the pub my mum grew up in (the new era bar) a photo of a pub outing to dumfries in 1951 is now on old glasgow pubs, although it doesnt show the pub and it was after my grandpa kelly had a stroke, so he was no longer landlord but it was lovely to know someone remembered it, thanks again and best wishes to everyone my mums heart did belong to glasgow

Submitted by: Libby Cameron
Cummnock, Scotland
10/06/09Y
Email: libcatclaws@msn.com


FAO: Ann Docherty I remember albert he stayed straight across from me (I lived at 51) always smartly dressed and one nice guy I also wondered if Melvin knew him but couldnt remember his last name and would anyone remember the two brothers names who used to go around some nights playing their guitars and singing up the lanes and in the backs till the police moved them on they were brilliant they used to do a lot of the everley bros.

Submitted by: no tellin ye
Brighton, England
10/06/09
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Hi Ann, thank you for contacting me, I knew an Abert Green and I also knew a family of Dochertys (big family) but I am sure they lived next to Teachers pub in Cumberland street, I went to Abbotsford place school between 1955-61. Melvin

Submitted by: Melvin
Glasgow, Scotland
10/06/09
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log on to www.glasgowpoet.co.uk, and enjoy a great poem, "glesga wean"

Submitted by: Owen Dougan
Glasgow, scotland
10/06/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


RE: FRANCES GALLAGER, there is a Jackie Murphey listed in Utica Michigan? Google Detroit white pages and insert name. Hope this helps

Submitted by: Sam Murphy
Windsor, Ontario
09/06/09
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I'm 63 years old, and lived in Gorbals since 1954. I see that old chesnut has resurfaced. Gang talk. Cumbie talk. Bragging talk. Those who ran around in the Cumbie gangs were thugs. To say they never bullied their own is rubbish. Give whoever is still alive NO oxygen. This forum should be reserved for the people who were honest, hard working, and proud to be born & bred in Gorbals. Not those who were running around in cowardly gangs.

Submitted by: James Feeney
Gorbals, Glasgow
09/06/09
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Pat Mooney I agree with your comments, some people never grow up, as a kid I used to go to the pictures and whatever was on the kids would imitate the hero when we all came out, whether it was Superman or Tarzan or whatever, but we grow out of it, the would be gangsters appear to stay like that forever, kids dressed as adults, some even pensioners with mentalites of kids, Pat your my hero for standing up to these people. Sandra

Submitted by: Sandra
Brighton, England
09/06/09
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MANY THANKS TO THE TWO PEOPLE WHO KINDLY SENT MESSAGES REGARDING THE ORR FAMILY. I WILL TRY TO FOLLOW THIS INFORMATION. THANKS ONCE AGAIN. B.JORDAN

Submitted by: B.JORDAN
CHELMSFORD, ENGLAND
09/06/09
Email: betty.jordan@btinternet.com


FAO. Thomas Donnelly haven't seen you on here for a long time hope you are well. I don't think they will make the Colloseum into a music hall, all the famous buildings in Glasgow are slowly getting demolished, sheme on the people who are doing this. The Bedford is a venue for bands and groups now it is called the Carling. They are digging this place up everywhere for the new road that wil be running through God onlys knows. digging up McKinlay St. and over to the gushet at Cathcart Road and then it is going over where Dixons Blazes was and comes out at the old Glencairn club in the Glasgow Rd. (Rutherglen) but you have lately seen the changes when you come over from the States. Amelia

Submitted by: Amelie McKinlay
Glasgow, Scotland
09/06/09
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com


Re old street songs - I remember 'Murder Murder Polis 3 stairs up, the man in the middle door hut me with a cup, my nose is aw blood, my heid's aw cut, murder murder polis, 3 stairs up'. I also remember the singing we used to do on the bus to/from school at the Grange (when Bonny's was getting renovated). We are the Gorbals girls, we wear our hair in curls, we wear our dungerees above our knees, we wear our father's shirts, we were our brothers ties and when we want a boy we simply wink an eye! Just for the record, I never wore dungarees in my life and my brother would never had let me borrow his tie (if he had have had one)!! Anybody remember Mr Leahy from St Francis school? Fr Campion? The Office Bar (at Eglington St) which I believed was an office until I went there! Sorry to hear Scobie died, he was such a lovely guy as well as Patricia McGuigan. Re Cumbie, most of the guys in these gangs joined them so they would not be picked on and were probably as scared as the ones who were not in them. Luckily most of them went on to grow up, have families and live really normal decent lives and no doubt have some, if not lots of, regrets. Hopefully they went on to teach their kids what not to get involved in and perhaps that is why there is not too much nonsense from the now. Of course, the Gorbals has changed, it has to to keep up with life as it is now. We were not allowed calculators at school - now the young ones have blackberries (when I was wee, you picked these down at the rose gardens!). Love live the Gorbals, the people in and out of it and regardless of your memories just be glad you are still able to recall them before we all lose our marbles - incidently I remember playing marbles in Florence St!!! Cheerio

Submitted by: Auld Soo Sider
Llanfair, Wales
09/06/09
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FAO Charlie A perfect response from you to the poster who is too much of a coward to put his name. Good for you Charlie, for taking your power back. Don’t let them ever upset you again. Always remember what goes round comes round, they’ll get theirs in the end. FAO Father Peter Devine No apology necessary for being outspoken. Glad someone on here expressed how they felt about it. I’m sure your post meant a lot to Charlie (also Andy) and a lot of other people. That post was just nasty and mean spirited. Thank you for taking the time to address it. I have read some of your posts and enjoyed them. Good luck with your leg problem and please keep us updated. FAO Webmaster Pleased you removed the offensive post to Charlie and hope you can take measures where possible to block this person.

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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09/06/09
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Lived in Granton street Oatlins 1970s used to hang around with Cuskie and Willy Trimble anyone about?

Submitted by:John Bonnar
London, England
09/06/09
Email: johnbonnar_21@jotmail.co.uk


Hi Melvin, My Granny lived at 76 Cumberland St next to Reid's Bakerey.I played with alot of kids from,Abbotford place, Salsbury St, and Nicholson St.Do you know Albert Green,He lived in the first close in Abbotford Pl up from Cumberland St on the right hand side

Submitted by: Ann Docherty
Corunna, Canada
09/06/09
Email: anrdoc@cogeco.ca


Anybody remember a Mary Boyle of 132 South Portland St late 30s early 40s?

Submitted by: Not Supplied
Not Supplied
09/06/09
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FAO: F Gallagher, i lived at105 hospital st and was brought up with peter mcorey and he his doing well lives in cambuslang spoke to his wife rose only two wks ago. sadie gibson

Submitted by: Not Supplied
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09/06/09
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FAO big Iain Hutton how you doing iain last I saw you was a couple of years ago up in B&Q in the darnly have you moved to england?

Submitted by:no tellin ye
Brighton, England
09/06/09
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Andy Hannah....pretty sure we went to Camden St. Along with Robert Reid George Cruden etc. Evelynn Rennie Jeanette Savage etc. have early school photo of class if you want to get in touch. Don't be confused by this email address name have lived in Aust. since 64. Last saw you when we were 12 years old. Wish you well....

Submitted by: The Mova
Wee Place, Australia
09/06/09
Email: ehanderson1@vtown.com.au


My hobby is reading about old Glasgow pubs, especially the Gorbals & Southside of Glasgow. I've visited the excellent Old Glasgow Pubs.com & Mitchell Library Websites, and ONE pub appears to have been wiped off the Map without trace!! It's the Bundoran Bar in the Gorbals. I can find no evidence of it's existence. There must be someone out there from the old Gorbals who remembers it. Any info is much appreciated!

Submitted by: Bar-Fly
Glasgow, G51
08/06/09
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Hi, for t.a.o. Robert Kelly, 30/05/09, note the spelling Robert, Centre St., and if you look up Carnoustie St for your secondary then that might get you through. good hunting

Submitted by: George
Glasgow, Scotland
08/06/09
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Does any one know of a Mary Evaline Nicol from naburn st in the gorbals?

Submitted by: J Parker
Kansas, USA
08/06/09
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I'm looking for catherine lafferty from moncur street in the early 60s. she worked in templetons i think. let me know if anybody remembers her thanks

Submitted by: Catherine Hall
Edinburgh, UK
08/06/09
Email: chhs@blueyonder.co.uk


Someone has sent in a form saying they are me this appears to be the case, my name is Devlin not Devine. The imposter is childish and uncaring and not so smart. Father Peter Devlin.

Submitted by: Father Peter Devlin
Stirling, Scotland
08/06/09
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Not sure if you got my message I just wanted to finish it off by saying what a wonderful site it is and I thoroughly enjoy reading all the messages. Although I was born and bred in Govan, I am very proud to say that my wee mum, came from the good old GORBALS!!!

Submitted by: Patricia Barr
Kilbirnie, Scotland
08/06/09
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FAO Charlie - Don't answer the comments to feet sore from running. He thrives on gang talk, so don't take the bait pal. You questioned the last time and you were right to. Terry

Submitted by: Terry Fraser
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06/06/09
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I am also known as Babs. I lived at 122 hospital street until 1959 I then moved to england with my parents. On the landing above me lived Nellie and her son Jackie Murphey, I later found out they moved to Detroit in America.Also across the street lived Peter and Charlie McCorrey does anyone know them or heard anything about them over the years. I would love to know as I have lots of happy memories of all of them.

Submitted by: FRANCES GALLAGER
Glasgow, Scotland
06/06/09
Email: frances43@live.co.uk


Hi myra miller, I have just emailed you a photo of a Gorbals lamplighter. I hope its what you want. Bye for now, norrie

Submitted by: Norman Mcnamee
Rutherglen, Scotland
06/06/09
Email: norman_mcnamee@hotmail.com


fao. ken horn, I remember a man named horn,he was married to gretta patterson, they had a little daughter and lived with his inlaws accross the street from me {nicholson street} in the 1940/50s.

Submitted by: Owen Dougan
Glasgow, Scotland
06/06/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


Further to recent replies about old Gorbals pubs, try the excellent website - Old Glasgow Pubs.com - many nostalgic pub photo's old + new, plus priceless information. If the powers that be, Close the Glaswegian Bar in Bridge St, the Gorbals loses yet another famous licensened landmark

Submitted by: Johnny Coyle
Gorbals, Glasgow
06/06/09
Email: jayco59@hotmail.com


FAO Betty Jordan. I grew up in the early 50's in Govanhill Street, and vividly remember a family of the name Orr from No.63, my daughter who lives nearby is positive a woman called Anne Orr still lives at that exact address. Sorry I can't be of more help.

Submitted by: Not Supplied
Glasgow, Scotland
06/06/09
Email: Not Supplied


To B.Jordan: Regarding the Orr family from 63 Govanhill St, Glasgow G.42 - I moved to Govanhill St from Crown St, Gorbals in 1968, and remember running around with an Ellis Orr from the same building. Lost touch with her about 1976'ish.

Submitted by: Mgt H.
Kilmarnock, Scotland
06/06/09
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Oh how I wish I could go back for just one day to the streets of early sorrows,,,and joys of gorbals. The winters seemed short, but the light nights,,,especially during the summer holidays. ..I used yo tell my ma how I hated school.But I never understood her when she told me that she wished she was back in school,,now I get it ,.Every time I used to moan she would say Oh no first thing in a Monday morning..I'll bet all of us would love to go back,poor as we were. Anyway May you all be well and keep optimism in your gorbals hearts.

Submitted by: J Parker
Emporia, USA
06/06/09
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MY NAME IS FRANCES GALLAGHER ALSO KNOWN AS BABS I LIVED AT 122 HOSPITAL STREET UNTIL ABOUT 1959 I MOVED TO ENGLAND WITH MY PARENTS ON THE LANDING ABOVE US LIVED NELLIE AND HER SON JACKIE MURPHEY SOME YEARS LATER I WENT BACK TO FIND THEM BUT WAS TOLD THEY HAD MOVED TO DETROIT AMERICA Nellie was a tailoress and had lovely red hair if you met her you would rember her also across the STREET LIVED PETER And charlie Mc CORREY I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF ANYONE KNEW THEM OR KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THEM I TRULEY MISS MY HOME TOWN AND THINK ABOUT IT OFTEN LOVE TO THE PEOPLE OF THE OLD GORBALS

Submitted by: FRANCES GALLAGER
BIRMINGHAM, ENGLAND
06/06/09
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I looked through a book I have called "The Gorbals, An Illustrated History" by Eric Eunson, to see if there were any pics of lamplighters but couldn't find any, sorry. I can thoroughly recommend this bbok to anyone looking for old Gorbals photos. It covers a wide range of subjects and periods. It's published by Richard Stenlake Publishing if anyone is interested

Submitted by: Tricia
Glasgow, Scotland
05/06/09
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To the person who would not submit his name, firstly I was not going to reply to you, I have no more to say, just want to enjoy conversation with the good decent people on here, I have to much character to be bothered with you

Submitted by: Charlie
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05/06/09
Email: Not Supplied


Very sad news the "COLISEUN CINEMA" was destroyed by fire so bad it will be pulled down. The coliseum was open 1905 as a music hall in 1928 it became a movie hall showing the first talkie in 1929 one of the great movies was showing in 1939 "GONE WITH THE WIND", I am sure many people have some great memories sitting up in the GODS watching some great old movie. I am sure it will be sadly missed by all I sincerely hope that they will build a brand NEW MUSIC HALL in it place and rename it"THE COLISEUM . Yours sincerely Thomas Kelly Donnelly

Submitted by: THOMAS KELLY DONNELLY
GORBALS, GLASGOW
05/06/09
Email: WEECHEEKYMAN@MSN.COM


Does anyone remember my dad, John Horn from the Gorbals born in the twenties. He had sisters, May and Bette and brother Billy who married Isa Devine from the bookies

Submitted by: Ken Horn
Victoria BC, Canada
05/06/09
Email: kenhorn@kenhornart.com


Some time ago browsing through this great site a letter from Billy McCubbin who emigrated to Canada in the late fifties or sixties was asking if anyone remembered them the answer yes did you have a sisiter called heather and eileen? hope to read more about you

Submitted by: A Ramsay
Glasgow, Scotland
04/06/09
Email: Not Supplied


FAO Tony Coyle, sorry I can't help you Tony, the name Coyle rings a bell but thats it, I hope you find what your looking for,good luck in your search AMB

Submitted by: Agnes Burns
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03/06/09
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FAO Doris Mc Intyre. Liked your wee song Doris, wish I knew the tune? Here are some wee songs we used to sing while playing ball or skipping ropes/// Bobbie Shaftoe went to sea, silver buckles on his knee, he'll come back and marry me, bonny Bobbie Shaftoe???Saloamy Saloamy, you should see Saloamy, hands up there ,skirts up there, you should see Saloamy??? I had A little Monkey, it's name was Jumbo Jim,I put im in the bath tub tae see if he could swim, he swallowed all the water, he ate all the soap, he died last night with A bubble in his throat.??? There are loads of wee rhymes too, but I don't want to spoil you with too much nostalgia.Wee Blether.

Submitted by: Wee Blether
Scotland
03/06/09
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Does anyone from the gorbals have any photos of lamplighters.my dad was a lamplighter and i have tried in vain to find one but no luck would be much appreciated if anyone can help.

Submitted by: Myra Miller
Glasgow, Scotland
03/06/09
Email: myrajigy1@aol.com


Doing family research. Anyone have same people in their family history? My great great grandfather lived in Florence Street and died in 1935. His death was registered by his daughter Mary Craig of Thistle Street(Craig is her married name). Does this ring a bell with anyone..obviously I'm assuming Mary Craig is also dead now, but hoping someone recognises the name and address from their own family records?

Submitted by: Tricia
Glasgow, Scotland
03/06/09
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I am trying to trace my Great Grandfather James Skillen's Family. James married his first Isabella Robinsom in 1878. James came from Ireland & he & Isabella had 3 sons (William, James (he died at a month old)& James their daughter was called Mary Robinson. Isabella died in 1893. They stayed at 360 Mathieson Street. In 1896 James married my Great Grandmother Belinda Ferguson they had 2 sons (Andrew & John) & 3 daughters (Hannah, Belinda & Catherine). If anyone knows anything about James & his family it would be most appreciated, Thanks Liz

Submitted by: Liz Mowat
Glasgow, Scotland
03/06/09
Email: eliz_mowat@yahoo.co.uk


JOHN MUIR.....Lived in Gorbals in the 1940's.....may have been in the Navy and based in Kent for a while! Any information please contact me.

Submitted by: HELEN BEEBY
PLYMOUTH, ENGLAND
03/06/09
Email: helenrussan55@msn.com


we talk of slang i have a couple next door to me and they still say its in the press or lobbie and ers for arse haha bye anne thats how i talk who cares

Submitted by: anne brannan
st catharines, ontario
03/06/09
Email: anneoneill.44 @hotmail.com


FAO NOT Supplied; Where you one of the names mentioned? My brother was Jim Malcom, yes there were some good players, I played for the school and for Crosswoods remember them? No player of today could play on that spare ground at Cavendish street, when you look back I cant believe I did either. You must have lived in Egliton street because all the names you mentioned came from there, Yes I remember those days like yesterday, it was a mix line up boys from Abbey, Bonnies, Holyrood, Adelphi, Bogie, but we all got on okay. Do you remember Mamees the sweet shop, two sisters served in there, you got your penny whoppers! ha ha nice to hear from you Billy.

Submitted by: Billy Malcom
Easterhouse, Glasgow
02/06/09
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Hello to Tony Coyle, I knew Coyles from the soo-side and it maybe I knew your family, my sister died in Nicholson street in 1953 thro TB, I really admire your strength, you are a real credit you have went through a lot bless you. I am getting on now but if theres anything you would like me to tell you I would only be too happy to share the memories but first lets establish if we were talking about the same family, as there were a lot of Coyles, Owen Coyle is one of the many Coyle families from the gorbals he is the football manager of Burnley. my hat goes of to you Tony Auld Malkie

Submitted by: Auld Malkie
Glasgow
02/06/09
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FAO Andy Hannah Your story was another sad reminder of the senseless violence inflicted on innocent people. Glad you survived it. Think it was great that you posted to share your story with other victims. Many years ago a pal of mine (also a victim) told me it helped him to write about what happened to him. Hope that's the same for you. Sorry you moved to England, that's Glasgow's loss, but hope you have had a good life since. All the best to you and yours. Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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02/06/09
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FAO Billy; Those were all familiar. After over fifty years in the U.S. I still say " look at the time, it's eleven 'clock, and no a wain in the house washed."

Submitted by: Joan
USA
01/06/09
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f.a.o agnes. read that you hid a total knee replacement, am oan the waitin list,(4yrs noo)fur ma rite knee,am hoppin mad wae aw this waitin,see if it wis ma haun,a could go tae the 2nd haun shoap,a mean it widnae cost you an erm or a leg widdit?,gled tae know your yer bak oan yer feet,ma consultant is mr leitch,at the western,hope hes no a cowboy,you keep laffin agnes,its good fer the soul,is yer other knee awrite?,altho ma rite knee is shattered,ma left wis awrite????,no its nackered anawe,so a mite kneed tae get the 2 dun in awanner,well a wis legless fer yrs,so that shudnae be a problem,may your god be with you agnes,take care.the jannie x.

Submitted by: jim the jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
01/06/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


Hi Margret, good to get a reply. Steve he was in California now am not sure when but it had to be in the early eighties .Any how him and all the surfers used to hit Beverly hills and Hollywood plus all the hang outs at the beach. my son said man that Steve his patter is great , and he can get all the burds. Oh and your two uncles his dad and his brother he got us great transportation on any train we decided to take . your aunt margret , her and Ivan were at a party we had in the West end and I was kidding her on , och dont tell me that is your son , he is your laud , we had a good laugh and my daughter Doris, she also stayed with her at one time. Oh and George he was a nice person to know. In fact Margret said watch him Doris or he will be trying to get into your knickers and she said it in front of him. We had a good laugh talk about great personality they two were a pair. And margret she took no crap from no one. When I heard about Ivan it was total shock he was a nice young man then Margret it just throws you for a loop . But I will tell you lassie great people in my opinion no fancy airs or graces and just did what it took for to get on with life. so if you can relate to me about young Stev! e no matter were he is we would be thankful to you. Again to all the folks fae Glasgow enjoy your selfs we only come this way once or so they tell me . Melvin happy belated birthday did you eat any Gefulta fish and rye bread with a big fat kosher pickle love them suckas (grin) Hey T.Q how is the never going to be printed book ? and dont you get peturbed when you think you have a good letter and the Spider of a webmaister disnae print it . Get it web spider oh well tried ma best .We are the people . JIM JANNIE MANNIE THAT USED TO BE ONE OF MY SNIDE REMARKS AAAAAAND MAY YOUR GOD BLESS YOU WHEN WAN O THEM CHRISTIANS GOT UP MA DUKE OF MONTROSE (nose)DAM

Submitted by: Doris McIntyre
Slo, USA
01/06/09
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LOOKING FOR INFORMATION REGARDING HUGH ORR OR HIS FAMILY, RESIDENTS OF 63 GOVANHILL STREET GLASGOW DURING WW11

Submitted by: B. JORDAN
CHELMSFORD, ENGLAND
01/06/09
Email: betty.jordan@btinternet.com


Some good old Glega expressions, booby-trap, pan loaf, hauf an a hauf, swizzles, hoate peas n vinegar, four eyes, dongerees, put yer sanies oon, midden, fitba, ld, vp, The Lowbie, hey ma gies a piece nbutter nsugar doon, dae ye want yer hole, ya bampot, snake belt, I am sure theres at least wan you dont know Billy

Submitted by: Billy Malcolm
Glasgow
30/05/09
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I need to say what awonderful site this is. the gorbals was my life..It would be so easy to talk of mozart, alexander Fleming ..Lister Pasteur, or Logie Baird...Scotland has given it"s fair share of geniuses. I however am a simple man..The gorbals will always be special to me. There are so many things in my memory,that to talk to yiu good people would only diminish it. Remember we are all Jock Thampsons bairns

Submitted by: J Parker
Emporia, USA
30/05/09
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FAO Charlie Just read your latest post. How awful for you dealing with scars on your face and the emotional aftermath as well. Anyone who isn't touched by your story simply has no heart. You're a brave and courageous man to have survived all of that, you're A REAL MAN and an inspiration to others. Stay strong and positive. All the very best to you. Cheers! Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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30/05/09
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After looking at site discovered we may have some relations posting. My great grandfather was Patrick McMenemy. My father is James McMenemy(born 1938 in gorbals) second of three sons of Thomas McMenemy who died aged 36/7 husband of Mary Lauder. The boys lost all contact of the mcmenemys after Thomas' death. Any information would be gratefully recieved.k

Submitted by: C. McMenemy
Stirling, Scotland
30/05/09
Email: sembleleap@aol.com


I dont know you Melvin, but you have the right to free speech, at least in America, we have a constitution. Most of my friends at Buchanan street were Jewish. And I must let everyone know,I am not of the Jewish Faith myself,but the Jewish People are to be credited for some of the best in all that we have today in the arts ,literature etc. Kafka. Heine. einstein. Mendelsonn, Saul Bellow, Freud and so on .Dont be put off by irritating messages My best friend in gorbals primary was Ronnie Winestone,a real good kid. Take care of yourself Mel,Hope everything turns out for the best. Jack

Submitted by: J Nicol
LA, USA
30/05/09
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Is my memory so bad that i do not remember my primary school or secondery school i went to center st primary then crookston st secondary but can,t find them on friends reunited there must be someone who can shed light on this for me by the way love gorbals storys lived in eglinton st until 1950,s.

Submitted by: Robert Kelly
Malton, North Yorkshire
30/05/09
Email: helenkerr1@btinternet .com


My first job when I left school was at Templetons at the corner of Cumberland st and Abbotsford Pl, I met a girl not long after that and we went out courting and to this day we are still together, I remember one Friday night I took her out to the Palace, after that to the chip shop a couple of doors away, it was there I was confronted by a group of boys around the same age as myself, they jostled me whilst I was waiting and tried to be funny with my girlfriend, I accepted that but did not like it or the pen knife that was pushed into my gut for absolutely no reason, my life was saved by a taxi driver who rushed me to the Victoria Infirmary, I was like the other reader scared to leave my house after that, the Police questioned me and I gave a description but nowt happened, but I found out his name much later, he was a member of the YYCumbie. I can never justify this lads actions what joy did he get out of sending someone to near death. I hated the Gorbals for that bein! g young I blamed everyone, but I know better now there were a lot of good people there to, I never had much of a life after that, at 20 I moved to England. This is just to share my feelings with the other reader who also suffered at the hands of the YYCumbie. Yours Andy.

Submitted by: Andy Hannah
Portsmouth, England
30/05/09
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10quid, I used to live in a village inbetween Didcot and wantage called East Hendred. I left the Gorbals in 1984 aged 18.It was like walking into a fairytale. Thatched cottages i nannied there. My oldest daughter still lives there. Keep the posts coming and may u keep in great health X

Submitted by: Francie Connolly
Herts, England
30/05/09
Email: francie1888@aol.com


love this site, it has been good company over the past months since I had a Total Knee Replacement, thank you to all the good laughs you have given me with the great stories, and all the good information I have found out from you all. I only have one thing that I can say gets me really angry, and that is all the talk about the cumbie, and the people who think its big to write about being in this gang, and the things they got up to. I was born and brought up in the gorbals by a Mum And Dad who were good people, and I never seen any bad fights between gangs, but I know it happened.I would imagine most of the old gang members are Grandparents now, I wonder what stories there children & Granchildren were told as they were growing up. The cumbie and other gangs should leave the past in the past where it belongs,we don't want to still be hearing about them in another 10 years, they have NOTHING to be proud of. Agnes.

Submitted by: Agnes
Glasgow
29/05/09
Email: agnesherrity@hotmail.co.uk


I'd like to find any members of the HARDIE family - Grace was one of 3 girls, worked as a window dresser, I think; born late 40s; mum died. Grace moved away in '68 (london initally). If anyone can give more info, please post - thanks!

Submitted by: A
Southern England
29/05/09
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FAO rose Slang word for Webmaster How about " SPIDERMAN " or "SPIDERWOMAN" cheers chris

Submitted by: Chris Wilson
BC, Canada
29/05/09
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I would like to say a big Thank you to everyone who sent their comments in, I appreciated that it makes you proud to come from the Gorbals, thank you all of you, I am sorry if some of my comments were not clear but I sincerely meant no offence to anyone. I had a nice birthday, my two daughters and my son took me out for a meal, my wife passed away 3 years ago, this is the first time we had all been together since then, so a marvelous night indeed, Take care Melvin

Submitted by: Melvin Bernstein
Eastwood, Glasgow
29/05/09
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Yes tony coyle and Pat Gryffe was a nightmare. The guy who ran it when I lrft in 1957 was a Mr Perry and his wife,and yeah the staff were no better. I have never fotgotten his treatment of me,and find it hard to forget but can forgive aw ra best J nicol

Submitted by: J Nicol
Los Angeles, USA
29/05/09
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To the person with No Name aged 44 from Wolseley St. - Well I'm a bit older than you by 10 years. Lived there till I was 8 in Wolseley St, then moved westwards to Centre St. I also attended Adelphi Sec from 1967-70. Gorbals was a great place then. Good people, good chippies, good transport system, but moved out to Paisley when I got married in 1975. I wouldn't recognise Wolseley St area these days!! And I believe Adelphi Sec is no more!! Good luck from an ex-Wolseley St and Adelphi boy!!

Submitted by: William Boyd
Paisley, Scotland
29/05/09
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To Doris McIntyre,RE: Steve Fielding/Margaret Lawson. How long ago was Steve in California? He is my cousin and Margaret Lawson was my mums sister.

Submitted by: Margaret
Surrey, Canada
29/05/09
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Whit's the slang fur webmaster? lol

Submitted by: Rose Doyle
Donegal, Ireland
29/05/09
Email: rosedoyle1@hotmail.com


FAO Melvin Bernstein Absolutely despicable that you would receive threatening messages from someone on here. No matter what your views or opinions on here have been, you are entitled to them. No, we should not allow this type of person to do this to us. If I were you I would be turning the messages over to the police. See how brave the BULLIES are then. Sorry this happened to you, I enjoy reading your posts, so don't let these idiots wear you down. Oh and a Very Happy 60th birthday to you. Cheers! Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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28/05/09
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Tony Coyle what a beautiful part of the world you live in Reading I worked there in 1962 at Didcot for the atomic energy and if I had my choice to live anywhere else but Australia the place I would pick would surely be Reading a beautiful area and I hope that it is still the same but then everything changes but I do hope all for the better perfection is very hard to be improved on 10 quid

Submitted by: 10 quid
oz
28/05/09
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I've heard that someone put an ad. in the Daily Record about a year ago, trying to locate my Auntie CATHIE and Uncle EDDIE LYON who emigrated to NZ. If by chance they visit this board, I'd love them to contact me.

Submitted by: Cathie
Watford, UK
28/05/09
Email: catkan@tiscali.co.uk


hi everyone, im new to this site, as im a glaswegian now living in england, i find this site quite amusing, all you seem to do is bicker with eachother, is it because you are all much older than me, (im 44)is that what happens when old age kicks in, omg!!!! is there any one out there who is my age & remembers living in oatlands & went to wolsley street school, then to adelphi, please write in , it would be nice to hear from some young ones!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Submitted by: Not Supplied
Not Supplied
28/05/09
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To not interested, if you read my letter on the 4/4/09, you will get hopefully your explanation, I believe you are more than just interested, who are you? What happened to me as a young innocent lad was a scar for the rest of my life, and your saying did I provoke it, hey no one deserves what I got and my crime was to ride up and down Cumberland street, I was pulled off from my Lambretta and beaten senselessly and chibbed, in those days facial stitches were not carried out too good, I hope that satisfies your interest, it happened along time ago but can you imagine how I felt when someone on this site a few months ago was boasting about the Cumbie, that made me ill inside because he was one of them. I have a quiet peaceful life now, but all during my late teenage and early adult life I was afraid to leave my house, I wanted a girl friend just like any other healthy boy but because of my face I did not have the courage to talk to anyone. I was a normal young lad riding! my Lambretta which I was proud of, but that also took a beating that day, I just dont understand why people 40 years on still talk about the Cumbie as a special part of the Gorbals, they were a lot of youngsters like me who hated gangs and lived in fear of them. Charlie

Submitted by: Charlie
Glasgow
28/05/09
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I spend a lot of my time in the Library, its a great place to meet your auld croonies as well plus as I havent got a computer its great for me to get on to the Gorbals site which is dear to me, I am an auld windbag , love talkin all the time to anyone or anybody. I seen this truly great poem written by a Scot called Tom Leonard and I think you would all like it; this is thi six a clock news thi man said, n thi reason a talk wia BBC accent is coz yi widny wahnt mi ti talk aboot thi trooth wia voice lik wanna yoo scruff yi widny thingk it waz troo. Jist wonna yoo scruff tokn thirza right way ti spell ana right way tok it, this is me tokn yir right way a spellin, this is ma trooth yooz doant no thi trooth yirsellz cawz yi canny talk right, this is the six a clock nyooz, belt up! Hope you all liked it. I thought it was great. Auld Malki

Submitted by: Auld malki
Shawlands, Glasgow
28/05/09
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F.A.O.TAE AW THE GREETIN FACED PEEPLE. THE WEBMASTER HAS RESPONED WAE GEEZABREK,THE PERFECT ANSWER,LET THE PEEPLE LAFF AND ENJOY LIFE.LIVE AND LET LIVE.X the jannie.MAY YOUR GOD BE WITH YOU.

Submitted by: jim the jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
28/05/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


FAO Interested Just to clarify something for you, I stated I had witnessed a lot of violence not that I was ever on the receiving end of it. You also asked were these thugs provoked to do what they did? Nobody in their right mind would have provoked them and even if they had, would that justify them stabbing, or taking a razor to someone's face? I think not! They did what they did because they could. You asked why would they pick on someone, that there has to be some reason? Well it could be any reason they liked, maybe you were too good looking, maybe you had something they didn't have, maybe you refused to go out with one of them or hang around with them, maybe you didn't pay back their money lending scheme on time, maybe you refused to hand over your pay packet to them, or maybe like Charlie you had a scooter and went to Maryhill to be with other lads with scooters. Or maybe it was just because they felt like it. Geting the picture? Read the recent post from Melvin! Bernstein. For voicing his opinions on here, he got threats made against him. This is supposed to be a community site and yet the BULLYING continues! You also said I never tell what's behind the story of what they did to me, that's because they are not my stories to tell. There are a few people (or their partners) on here who write in here on a regular basis and for whatever reason they have chosen not to write about the past. I respect that and am not about to tell their stories and upset them. The last thing I want to do is rub salt into old wounds. They don't deserve that. They were victims before, they won't be again through anything I write. Perhaps you can't relate to the stuff above but I would ask of you, please do not try to justify why people were attacked, there is no valid reason for it, and as I said before, let's stop victimizing the victims all over again by speculating that they may have provoked these thugs and therefore somehow deserved these attacks. To a! nswer your other question no, I was not in a gang fight. I can't speak for Charlie as I don't know the man, but it sounds like the only gang fight he was in was when the cumbie gang set about him while he was on his own and left him scarred for life. As to how I knew them, most people knew them in the gorbals or knew of them.

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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28/05/09
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FAO 10 Quid. I was reading about your health problems, and how you cope with it all.At one time you and I had a few arguments on this site about one thing or another, but now I would like to wish you all the very best and hope you enjoy many many more years writing on this site. Good luck to you .Agnes.

Submitted by: Agnes
Glasgow
27/05/09
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F.A.O 10 QUID,thanx mr Q fer keepin oan riting yev been thru a lot,wie yer illness,s yet ye keep cumin bak wie a response,yer a wee sojer,sum a the wurds a use ur the wurds a speak a,tae peeple who tak affence tae them,n say ther,fae the gorbals,glasgow,scotland,wit aboot,burns,lauder,n rab c,they use they wurds,n al tell u this boy,aint fer chukkin it,so u keep oan ritin mr Q,aluv tae read yer posts,LANG MAY UR LUM REEK,the jannie x,may your god be with you.

Submitted by: jim the jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
27/05/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


Hi john from kansas sorry dont have any photos and the only teacher that i realy remember was mrs reed.

Submitted by: Janet
Paisley, Scotland
27/05/09
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I was just sitting with my tea, when the words to this wee song popped into my head, and I wonder if any one else remembers it. Alillitl girlll came palacing balllyi, she felllel and bulllumped her hellllad and blllllamed the faullllt on me honest that is a real song and it was Bubbles Riley that I learned it from. One of my grandaughters Phoenix she is the only one out of six that can sing it. Hi Jannie old Malkie wee Blether melvin and father Devlin and all you nice people that enjoy this page no matter what we are the people DAM

Submitted by: Doris McIntyre
Slo, USA
27/05/09
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F.A.O melvin. sorry to hear that ur gettin threatenin posts,from thos type of people,on our site,our site is for peeple to pass on oor experinses,aboot livin n gettin brot up in the gorbals,its good tae no the webmaster his ther e-mail addresses that mite stoap thame,ye c a always put ma e-mail address oan ma posts,so enybody want tae get a bit personal kin gimme ther e-mail,n we kin konverse aff site,av no goat ur e-mail address,bit if ye want tae pass it oan tae me via the webmaster al be gled tae konverse wae ye n any language,ye c it is the decent peeple like us that kin share the happy times, happy 60th birthday, young yin,hiv a nice day x may your god be with you,the jannie.

Submitted by: jim the jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
27/05/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


Catherine.i remember toners/from oregon st.who went to ardencraig road/is it the same family.

Submitted by: Billy
Glasgow
27/05/09
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Interesting to read recent replies about Clyde FC. Don't forget that after leaving Shawfield in 1986, they shared at Firhill - home of Partick Th. & also played at Hamilton. Clyde were usually associated with the Gorbals/Oatlands residents, although the majority of their support came from the Bridgeton area during the 40's & 50's. Unfortunately their long term future is in doubt again.

Submitted by: Old Timer
Glasgow
27/05/09
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY MELVIN - IT'S GREAT TO BE 60!!!

Submitted by: Auld Biddy
West Sussex
27/05/09
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I got married in 1966 (aged 16) and moved into Hayfield Street, to a single end. the first January we stayed there was the great storms and we lost half of our ceiling. We basically lived in the bed recess for some months before we we re-housed. During our time there we come home one night to find our front door open and items all over the floor. we thought we had been burgled but no a drunk neighbour had fallen through the door. my wife got such a fright she went into labour and my first son was born that night

Submitted by: JimmyMac
Glasgow, Scotland
27/05/09
Email: jimmcqueen@yahoo.com


Thank you everyone for your support recently, this forum is for decent people who like to relate to each other about the old days in the Gorbals and I have recieved e-mails from world wide areas in the last two weeks from people even in the U S A its great to meet new friends and talk about about old times. SADLY there is always one or two who spoil the forum. I have been getting threatening messages from certain individuals (and the webmaster has been made aware of this). I do not know why but feel they should be banned from using our Gorbals forum, I am 60 years old this week probably most of us are in this age group, do we allow this type of person to do this to us? I hope the web master will consider action. Once again thanks to everyone who kindly sent in comments of support. Melvin. This has been noted by the webmaster and the said person(s) will be banned from the site

Submitted by: Melvin Bernstein
Glasgow
26/05/09
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THIS IS A NOTE FOR AULD MALKIE - Hello Auld Malkie! I have just read your last post and must say that I totally agree with your points! I am Glasgwegian born and bred and when I speak it is with a very, very strong accent! However, when I write, it is formal and correct, just as we were taught in school! Heaven forbid should some of our old teachers check out any of the posts professing to be "the auld gorbals talk". Personally, I find it hard to read, and must miss some good jokes as I tend to "skip over" the posts written in the "auld tongue". Authenticity is one thing, writing is another!

Submitted by: Auld Biddy
Littlehampton, West Sussex
26/05/09
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Father Peter Devlin hello there, please don't think I'm being grumpy I never run away from an argument but sometimes I shoot myself in the foot that I do know but I do have cause to be grumpy at times having had many spinal Ops, cancer 5 times, quadruple heart bypass and a stroke that left me partially blind and not being able to play any kind of sport "indoor or outdoor" would make anybody grumpy, but I don't believe in feeling sorry for myself just a dour Scotsman as much as I don't believe in taking one day at a time I am 70 and I wonder how fit I will be when I'm 80. Enjoy writing and whenever somebody gives me the opportunity to right a piece such as yourself saying I am grumpy I can assure you I will respond. Jim the jannie I wrote like that years ago but owing to blindmess I have to speak to my computer so I can only speak and it prints in proper English. I enjoyed the challenge of writing like the Jannie and I do miss it. 10 quid

Submitted by: 10 Quid
OZ
26/05/09
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HAVE JUST FOUND THIS SITE. My name was Anne McNally had a brother Peter . We live in Morrison st. but went to St Johns then on to Holyrood. We lived there about 1950-58. Peter was pally with the Rennie boys from west st he also went to wilson's jive club. Anyone remember ?

Submitted by: Anne Tonner
Glasgow
26/05/09
Email: annr.tonner@hotmail.co.uk


What a lovely anecdote from Fiona in the USA. Spoken like a true Gorbals girl. Aw ra best tae ye hen!!

Submitted by: Old Timer
Glasgow
26/05/09
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FAO John. Clyde moved from Shawfield during 1943 as the bombs were dropping then went back in 1946, the "bully wee" beat Aberdeen in the cup final then and Tommy Ring scored 1-0. After that they played at Shawfield for twenty years, moved to Cambuslang for one season, then back to Shawfield when they left due to lack of money in 1986, they were absolutely brazen headed but came back wen they beat Celtic in the cup that gave them a cash flow, I am a Celtic man myself and gutted Rangers won the league but always had a soft spot for Clyde, dae you support them, my uncle Colin supported them fur years known as Mac he was their only true supporter,he was always up the Clyde, I have some Clyde programs if you want them during the 1950s 60s 70s, they are worth something but you can half them just buy me a pint in the Brazen head ho ho or a Cuppp of tea will do Johnny the Boy ho ho some Boy I am in my late 50s ho ho when I used to sing Mac the knife I got that name, my twent! y odd guards call me A BAMPOT behind my back so i pay them the minium wage ho ho Big TC JB

Submitted by: TCJB
Polmadie
26/05/09
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Just found this web site, really good its just unreal who ever thought of the idea, Gorbals people talking from the past! Any of my old mates out there from Abbotsford Place?

Submitted by: Iain Hutton
Southend
26/05/09
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Looking for info about Arthur Sweeney who lived in Old Rutherglen Road about 1946-1947 would love to know if anyone remembers him

Submitted by: Big Mac
Airdrie, Scotland
26/05/09
Email: mcstrav1@hotmail.co.uk


I was brought up in the Gorbals in Glasgow in the 50's and 60's. There was a man in our tenement, 20 Thistle Street, called Leo Pinder who worked at the Glasgow Institute for the Blind, translating text into braille, I think. Leo had a 'club foot' and had lost an eye. Apparently he had had an accident whilst working on the trapeze in Saigon, so the story went in our tenement. He died in the late 50's I think. As far as I can remember he would only ever be seen leaving for work and returning in the evening to his wife in their small tenement flat. I can only ever remember seeing him in his bizarre get up, well, to us kids anyway, of long coat, Homburg hat and carrying his brief case - an exotic and alien item to the tearaways in the Gorbals. We horrible kids used to name call this very quiet, private old guy. In the warren like life of the slums there was something of a collective outlook on life, mainly for survival reasons. So if you kept to yourself then the kids might give you a hard time. Of course from this perspective I regret taking the rise out of Leo. He would just sail by us in his own dignified way. I was about ten years old when Leo died. I was away being 'looked after' when he died but when I returned I heard about the surprisingly large turn out for his funeral and something about a piece in the newspaper about his life. Does anybody know anymore about Leo?

Submitted by: Danny Burnett
London, UK
26/05/09
Email: danybdan@yahoo.com


FAO Jim from Fife. Dismayed that you found a visit to the Gorbals after an absence of 21-years a disappointment. True, the area is fast changing once again, but perhaps if you had posted an anecdote requesting some minor info on the Gorbals, you could have arrived a bit wiser. Most regulars on the Forum would have told you the Brazen Head is not an ordinary pub. It's a holstery to keep clear off! Good luck for any future visits.

Submitted by: Old Timer
Glasgow
26/05/09
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Someone wanted information on a Garng Gad paper it can be found under Glasgow Guides or just type in paper on Garn Gad you will find it hope this helps any one out there got any info on Margret Lawsons son Steve Fielding my son would like to contact him they were good buddies when he Steve was in California thank you DAM

Submitted by: Doris McIntyre
Slo, USA
25/05/09
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Clyde football club Hi john, here is the information you are looking for. Bye for now, norrie Again in Scotland, Clyde F.C. moved from Shawfield Stadium (near Rutherglen in the south east of Glasgow) to the new town of Cumbernauld in 1994. They had been evicted from Shawfield in 1986. By 1990, Clyde secured an agreement to build a home of their own in the Cumbernauld, which due to shifting population patterns was by now one of the larger settlements in Scotland without senior football. They were homeless from 1986 until Broadwood Stadium was built in Cumbernauld in 1994

Submitted by: Norman McNamee
Rutherglen , Scotland
25/05/09
Email: norman_mcnamee@hotmail.com


FAO BILLY BHOY The accident happened roundabout November or December the kids were Alfred Blacker, Ricky Shannon, Rosemary Toland. I was married to the only one that survied the accident, John Darby who tragically died suddenly on the 25.3.2006

Submitted by: M Darby
Glasgow
24/05/09
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To the guy from the states" who was asking about "gryffe bridge of weir" i remember it, yes is it was a hell hole. if you were there in 1962 you might remember mr malloch, mr herbert, mr gilmour, the only decent man was mr robertson. yes it was very strict and a hard place for youngsters. i would not blame glasgow, in fact glasgow corperation were one of the best as far as i know. you might have the same sort of history as me. i was taken from the gorbals to "castlemilk house" i loved it. then to "dunclutha" in dunoon, i used to stay at week-ends at the holy loch, with "nurse fox" if anyone knows her, dunnon was "a paradise" then fostered to a "phyco woman in milton" i went to st augustines milton, then back into care aged 12, gryffe was all there was for boys of that sort of age. although it was hard, sometimes i look back and miss the order and dicipline, strange thing? i am tony coyle i went to st philians in housten? many thanks for your time. anthony "tony" coyle.

Submitted by: Tony Coyle
Reading, England
24/05/09
Email: tony@vrtv.co.uk


Attn of auld malkie, or agbmu@yahoo.com hi, i saw each of your postings on the gorbals site. i don't normaly do this but i am trying to find a bit about my history. i see agbmu@yahoo.com were from nicholson street 1948, as were we, and my older sister helen coyle, passed on due to gastro enteritis, aged 3 months, 1949. my aunt uncle, all passed in their early 20s from tb. i an my siblings were mixed race kids, our mother is elizabeth coyle now 84. as kids, i and 3 siblings were taken into care by the police, our mother neglected us. i am not bothered about any of that, but would be interested, and am trying to find any info on my g/parents, i wondered if auld malkie knew my gran helen, and grandfather, thomas "john" coyle, or even my irish g/ggrandparents, eliza and frances coyle from cookstown, at that time the republic. i beleived they also lived in the area or calton. i ended that part of my life serving in the royal scots, 1971/3, we had a few boys back then, all from the gorbals. many thanks for your time. anthony "tony" coyle.

Submitted by: Tony Coyle
Reading, England
24/05/09
Email: tony@vrtv.co.uk


FAO Norrie McNamee, thankyou for your reply, I remember the library very well, it seemed to be the right place to hang out in the winter as it was nice and warm, shame that I can't find any pics of Oxford Lane, some of my happiest childhood memories were in those tenements, Regards Brian.

Submitted by: Brian Donovan
Cambridge, Ontario Canada
24/05/09
Email: briandonovan@rogers.com


FAO J Nicol, La, USA I recall visiting a family member in the Bridge of Weir home, also when she was placed in Lennox Castle. I don't know what happened to the staff of those places but as far as I'm concerned hanging them would have been too good. They treated the patients with absolute contempt and sheer cruelty. Every gift we bought was gone by the next week. Our family member kept telling us the nurses and staff was stealing them and the staff dismissed her as talking rubbish. I believe with every ounce of my being she was absolutely right! Every week we visited she either had black eyes, broken limbs or bruises everywhere and we were always told she fell out the bed or she had gotten into a fight with someone. The patients were such poor souls and I often wonder what became of them. Happy to report our family member is now in her own place with 24 hour care. However she goes holidays, to the theatre, to the pub and anywhere else she feels like going. The Government can't cover enough as far as I'm concerned if this is supposed to be compensation for her suffering. Just wish her parents had lived to see her today, she is doing so well, bless her cotton socks! Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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24/05/09
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FAO Brad: I remember well the pet shop on R/glen road. It was run by Mrs McCrimmond. She used to have a gift shop first and we all joined the Xmas club to get presents but after her husband passed she changed it to the pet store. She did at one time have ONE monkey in the store. Next time your in the pub have one for me. The shop was 2 or 3 doors along from the Penguin store. Cheers Chris

Submitted by: Chris Wilson
BC, Canada
24/05/09
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Jim - It was sad to read your negative story about returning to the Gorbals after 21-years. But I think that's the scenario all over the country. Everywhere is changing, and changing fast!! As for the Brazen Head pub, that's a den to avoid. A slur to the Gorbals landscape. You picked the wrong pub at the wrong time. I hope your next visit is enjoyable to the Gorbals.

Submitted by: Wee Mac
Gorbals
23/05/09
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FAO: Charlie Nice to see you posting in here again. I can understand the shock you got as a victim of senseless violence when reading posts in here about gangs and some of them boasting about all the damage they did to their victims. I posted about this same thing a few months ago. Anyway Charlie I don't doubt you will always remember the names of all the cowards, so will I. Nor will I ever forget the despicable things they did to innocent people. I can only imagine how the attack on you affected your family as well, it must have been awful for all of you. Some of the families of these thugs frequent this site, I wonder how many of them know about the carnage their Dad’s or Uncles caused. They probably don't know the half of the twisted and cruel deeds inflicted on some of the folks and maybe that’s just as well! I think your post was something that many of the decent folks of the gorbals could relate to and like me they could feel your pain. It was really courageous ! of you to write about it. Nobody deserved what happened to you and I’m glad you’re a survivor. I hope the rest of life has been kind to you and I wish you the very best life has to offer. Cheers! Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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23/05/09
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Does anyone remember dirty maggies book shop I think it was in rutherglen rd and eddie mitchell from Gilmour St?

Submitted by: Agnes Ramsay
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23/05/09
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In reference to the person who went back to glasgow last wkend & said he was in the brazen head (16 5 09), i was also there the same day as i am from glasgow but live in england now (20 yrs)i thought the banter was brill, i realise now how mush i miss glasgow & im so proud to be scottish, i had a fantastic time , every one made me feel welcome, i cant wait to visit again.

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22/05/09
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FAO Cavendish St. footballers. Tony and Joe McFadden from Eglinton St are my cousins. Sadly, Joe died in 1983 in Leeds. A wall fell on him at work. Tony is living here next door to me. He lost the power in his arms and legs at Xmas, but is slowly recovering. He often talks about the old football games. Does anyone remember John Joe Doyle, my brother, from Abbotsford Place?

Submitted by: Rose Doyle
Donegal, Ireland
22/05/09
Email: rosedoyle1@hotmail.com


Hope the people oan the site, who hiv an issue wae ma posts red sir alex fergusons story in saturdys paper, notice the sign he wis lookin at, n the quotes of parliamo glesga, and how he hinted at peepls,VALUES,MORALS,PRINCIPALS,ETHICS,CULTURE,ETHICS,OPINIONS,ETC,thats how i wis brote up,respect peepls views, bit sum peeple who hiv responded tae ma posts (n u no who yeez ur) shud hiv a fink aboot that, aahh, thats better, noo sir alex meshined, aboot jumpin dykes, dis anybody remember,THE BOXY,the bak eh abbotsford place, ah fink it wis johnstons bakery roof, the 1st der, wis tae dreep it, next wan wis tae jump aff it, oan tae the grun, jist missin a row a railins, n see the sper grun at cavendish street, between num 56 n wee snowball mc sporrans close, see at the tap a fink ther wis threed factory, the waw at the sper grun side wis aboot 5ft bit the urther side wis aboot a 20ft drap, remember wee malky mc sporran jumpin the waw tae get the baw fergettin aboot the drap oan the other side, ouch! dis any body remember the 2 bildins am referrin tae? awrabest, seeyeezawthemorra, the jannie x, may your god be with you.

Submitted by: Jim the Jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
22/05/09
Email: jimthejannie@btinternet.com


FAO J TOEHILL, you say you stayed in the gorbals from 1941 till 1958,i was wondering if you can remember the name of the crisp factory that stood on south portland street, i've been trying for ages to find out but nobody seems to know. my dad was brought up in the gorbals, james macdonald, he played alot of football. shona

Submitted by: Shona
Glasgow, Scotland
22/05/09
Email: shonzi@hotmail.co.uk


thanx fer the kisses charlie, n fer offerin tae b ma pal, thats me goat 2 pals noo,the mirror n u, any chance a signed fota, a ye, aye its good to feel important, fer yrs a felt unimportant, bit noo av bilt up ma self esteem, a feel like a wee bhoy again, its grate am gon tae skool noo, am studin, rocket siens, syckology, as a said n ma prevous posts ma 2 skools wur, kerd, n, dinner,long b4,ur time,the dark ages,wur,tuff,bit a wis happy, maest a the time, wae the freedom, oot tae midnite playin, wan man hunt, fitba etc,nae fear, noo many lite yrs oan, fings hiv changed, nae kerds, nae fitba, aw the big peeple, still tellin me wits rite, n, wits rang, aye that'll b shinin brite, ah dae wit a dae, n if yeez hiv problems wae that, its ur problem, luv n kisses, the jannie, hiv a nice weak end all,c ya.

Submitted by: Jim the Jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
22/05/09
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Hi janet from Paisley. Did you happen to be in Mr Mcaskills class. I've been hoping to get a copy of a school photo. I remember almost all the names in my class. be well Jack

Submitted by: J Parker
Emporia, USA
22/05/09
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You are right about the "Glesga" slang! I was born and lived in the Gorbals for years in Dunmore ST, and the other people who lived there never spoke like that. They were educated in the excellent Glasgow school system. We weren't toffs, we just spoke properly with that great Glasgow accent. I'm sorry, in all my years living in the Gorbals, I seldom heard this slang. We spoke the way we type our posts in this forum. No offence meant to the posters who use this slang, but that's my memory and my take on the subject. Thank-you.

Submitted by: Fiona
USA
22/05/09
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FAO Jim regarding my grandfather Patrick James Boyle. Yes i remember you and i contacted the Boyles from Kings Park but there was a little confusion,it was not the Patrick Boyle he was thinking of. I must appologise as i am not a Gorbals man and never have been so my geography of the area past and present is none existant, my only contact with Glasgow is an uncle and aunt i found a couple of years ago that we didnt know of but i do intend to visit soon and follow the footsteps of my ancestors. All i know is my grandad Patrick Boyle died at 10 1/2 Eglinton Lane in 1946 as i have the death cert with the information on but as to the exact location of Eglinton Lane i just do not know. My grandad married Mary Ann Kilkie in 1935 at st Francis's but as the 1935 Marriage records are not public yet i cant gain any more info. I would just like to thank everyone for the kind help that they are giving me on this site and putting up with me continuously posting the same old notes and going over old news, so as you may have gathered i am a very determined person and not willing to give up on my search. Jim yes i would love it if you can put me intouch with anyone that might remember them but this was a long time ago and i am sure as hell i must have Boyle relatives in Glasgow. Please mail me any help you may be able to give me or forward a phone number to the e mail posted and we can have a chat, all the best to you Gorbals people, you are the salt of the earth....Tommy Boyle

Submitted by: Tommy Boyle
Leicestershire, England
22/05/09
Email: tommyketchup123@hotmail.com


Charlie and Pat sorry to hear you are afraid of some gangsters but you have left us all in awes wondering what they did to you! you never tell what's behind The story how you knew them what they did to you and you say one rights on this site who in the heavens name is the spineless thug did it happen in Glasgow? Where you in gang fight? Did you do anything to provoke them? Just thought I would ask I am interested to know why people would pick on you there must have been some reason surely! Interested

Submitted by: Interested
Saughton, England
22/05/09
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Brad Please settle a pub debate can anyone remember a shop in rutherglen road oatlands early sixties that sold chimpanzees? now before in this site you could make a joke about your question and says something like that was right across the road from the Glasgow green monkey bars now you have to be careful as somebody may take offence I hope you don't take offence to this I'm just trying to make a point and I am sorry I don't know the answer or shop all the best to you Brad 10 quid

Submitted by: 10 quid
Oz
22/05/09
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Melvin you sure are the most insulting person on the site. Jim the Jannie was told to stop writing the way he does and you have gone for ten quid as well i like both of their writings! Janney I like to decipher you writing and ten quid I really enjoy your stories so keep on trucking wee Betty

Submitted by: Wee Betty
Glasgow, Scotland
22/05/09
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Tam Craig please if you are to be so kind can U give me the date on this site where I was so upsetting to Melvin as most of the things I send never get print I am interested to read my own mail thank you 10 quid

Submitted by: 10 quid
Oz
22/05/09
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J Patterson Johnny Patterson who came from Camden Street and had a friend or cousin by the name of Peter Lamont and be around 70 years of age now if so you may remember me from lawmoor Street my name was James Boyle "boylie" Jimmy Boyle or just "jimmy Boyle"if you are give me a tinkle on this site Jimmy

Submitted by: Jimmy
Oz
22/05/09
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I was brought up in the gorbals and the sayin was children should be seen and not heard we had manners please and thankyou its changed days jim the jannie was probly brought up that way to the guy is havin a laugh his patter is good give him a break he is not abusive chill out let him write whatever way he wants keep it cummin jim there are folk who enjoy your postings dont read if your offended the guy is cool lol

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22/05/09
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J Patterson; I totally agree with your findings, the Gorbals is no longer thats a cert. I am sure you found some nice places on your visit well I hope you did. enjoy your stay my friend. Big Tam.

Submitted by: Tam Craig
Glasgow, Scotland
22/05/09
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In reply for John. Clyde FC vacated Shawfield Stadium 1985-86. I moved to London 1981 and travelled up regular. But once they left Hamilton, I gave up watching them in 1991-92. I still follow their results on TV. My family were originally from Gilmour St and Orchard St and we were all Bully Wee fans. We moved to Toryglen about 1960. I can still remember the taste of those hot pies inside the ground. So sad when the club lost it's identity. I'll never forget winning the Cup in 1958. My father took me to that game, and I can remember walking down Cathcart Rd to Caledonia Rd alongside thousands of Clyde fans singing and dancing! God, those were fantastic boyhood memories!

Submitted by: Bully wee billy
London, England
22/05/09
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Thanks to all the replies on the site and invitations for a cupp of tea or a pint. I have had to give up the bevy at the moment as i am running a security company in Glesga with twenty guys under me so i've got to keep a clear head! But Tam C and Melvin...I am sure we will be able to meet up soon and talk about the good old Gorbals days. As i am working not far from Mel's house. Hopefully see you both soon...johnny boy

Submitted by: Johnny Boy
Glasgow, scotland
21/05/09
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Hi billy malcolm and h young i played fiba at the spare ground in cavindish st.tae with big fred young jim malcolm brian irvine the mackies con lynch colom mcwilliams tony joe mcfadden davy craig the campbells big dunky pivot barney alec robertson budgie awe great players we played every night memories then roon tae annas chippie up tae mckecnies for hot rolls.

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20/05/09
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I really have to laugh at the supposedly glega slang thats JJ has wrote, its more gibberish none of my cronies spoke with a twang like that, it gives you a headache trying to disifer it, I mean there was expressions and always will be, but school teachers and parents never taught us that language in the Gorbals, but I give you this your authentic, anyone else talk or write like that? it would be interesting to hear positive views, all the best Malkie

Submitted by: Auld Malkie
Glasgow, Scotland
20/05/09
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I lived at 115 lawmoor st from 1941 to 1958 had happy times in the street we climbed middens, played cowboys and indians after we had been to the bees picture house we used sit on the step of jimmy waddels newsagent shop late at night while a lass called agnes paul frightened us to death with ghost stories. there was a man called davy wellman who used to be brilliant at crossing a football for us to head into goal, the goal was between the gaslamp and wall. my boyhood mates from the street were billy smith, arthur tennant, billy jackson, joey regan, john young, jim cooper junior sweeney etc. happy days i could go on forever.

Submitted by: J Toehill
Bradford, Yorkshire
20/05/09
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Hi Tommy Boyle, I spoke to you once before your were looking for your grandfather, I gave you details of Boyles from Kings Park. I see you mentioned Egliton Lane, I lived in Cumberland street the first close which was also the corner of Egliton st, Egliton lane was seconds walk, there was only one close and about eight familys living there, did you grandfather live there, if he did I know people who lived up that close and you can contact them easy. Let me know, hope I can help. Jim Nan Cameron; sorry to take so long to reply but I am not often on here, my dad was Mick Hall he worked for Lizzie Bailey in the bookies, I was born in 247 Thistle street, Terry and Billy Johnson, Obagies, lived above us, my mother had ten of us seven girls and three boys, we were on the ground floor, we were the only ones with an inside toilet!! My brother worked for Frank in the greengrocer next door, I was about seven when we moved to Cumberland street, hope to hear from you, Jim

Submitted by: Jim
London, England
20/05/09
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I lived in Eglinton Street from 1957 to 1981. The Star Bar was my favourite watering hole when I turned 18 [1965]. I often went to the Plaza Ballroom. I worked for many years in the Kingston area, so for me the Laurieston/Kingston districts were the Gorbals that I knew and liked. I hardly ever go near Gorbals now as everything has changed and all my friends/relatives have moved away. But I did spend 25 years contented years there!

Submitted by: John MacDonald
Glasgow, Scotland
19/05/09
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Hello all. I am researching my Scottish ancestors and hope someone can help. My father's name was William Brodie Phillips, mother's name Sarah, he was born In Calton Glasgow in Gibson Street in 1927. Possibly in the Gallowgate area. Sarah was a charwoman.

Submitted by: Pauline Philips
Nottingham, England
19/05/09
Email: pauline.phillips7@ntlworld.com


FAO: HD. Abbotsford Pl, surgery had about six doctors---Dr Gladstone Robertson, Dr Anderson, Dr Kerr,---Norman/Mac Indoe/ and Dr Charles who was Gladstone Robertson's son. The caretaker was A lady called Betty, in the waiting room there were about four row's of dark brown wooden chair's and chairs all around the side's and up on the wall there was six coloured buzzer's for each doctor (I remember it well)------When I was about three yrs old I was run over by A Johnstone's bakery van, from Wellcroft Pl. This happened at the corner of Cumberland St and Abbotsford Pl---someone ran into the surgery and it was Dr Robertson who picked me up, and carried me into his room, I was then taken to the Victoria Infirmary, where I stayed for about three weeks---luckily I had no serious injury's only A ripped ear) two black eyes, and A big tyre mark that went over my wee belly (God love me ?)---Wee Blether.

Submitted by: Wee Blether
Ayrshire, scotland
19/05/09
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can anybody tell me the year clyde football team left shawfield dog stadium?

Submitted by: John
Glasgow, scotland
19/05/09
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Hi jack from kansas i went to buchan steet school in the 50s and remember it well take care from janet.

Submitted by: Janet
Paisley, scotland
19/05/09
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Ten Q. Give Melvin a break, I see you have made serious comments about him, yes it may be none of my business but I dont like to see people unhappy over silly things, lets get on, of course having a debate is fine and getting to a conclusion is better, much better than being unfriendly. Hope your keeping well us all gorbals men must keep on smiling. Big Tam.

Submitted by: Tam Craig
Glasgow, scotland
19/05/09
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Melvin: I enjoy your memories of the old Gorbals as I also resided in the Abbotsford Place area, so please don't give up on the forum regarding the unreadable parliamo Glasgow anecdotes.

Submitted by: Jim
Leeds, England
19/05/09
Email: jpat@talktalk.net


Just an observation from an old Glaswegian; I don't think Melvin intended to criticize Ten Quid or anyone else. I lived in Hospital St. for eighteen years before coming to the U.S. and often I have a hard time translating some of the Gorbals Anecdotes into English.

Submitted by: Joan
USA
19/05/09
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Father Devlin, It is nice to hear from you again. A year or so ago, you offered to look into the whereabouts of the Maddens who used to live in the Gorbals in 1951. In particular I am seeking Kathleen Bernadette Madden. After your offer, I never heard from you again. I hope that was not due to your accident. In any event, I am glad that you are back on line and wish you a speedy and complete recovery.

Submitted by: Susan
LA, USA
19/05/09
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Please settle a pub debate can anyone remember a shop in rutherglen road oatlands early sixties that sold chimpanzees?

Submitted by: Brad
Glasgow, Scotland
19/05/09
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I remember two John Daly's. One was nicknamed Planet and the other was a pal of Tam McDuff. I lived in Wolseley Street where Roya Ankara the boxer lived, and ran about with both John Daly's, Second thoughts one might have been a Jim Daly. Was it you who kissed the lassie from Polmadie Road the day she had her front teeth taken out?

Submitted by: Norrie Ross
Glasgow, Scotland
18/05/09
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Anyone remember the Toners from oregon st from ? till about 1957 big family

Submitted by: Catherine
Strathaven, South Lanarkshire
18/05/09
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Looking for any info on brian and belinda carruthers anne and agnes mcgregor

Submitted by: Martin Knight
Fareham, England
18/05/09
Email: k210martin@yahoo.co.uk


FAO. Pat Mooney, I would like to thank you kindly for replying to me through this colum your letter was very warming. My experience was sad, its something that lives with you forever, I was absolutely shocked to see one of the cowards writing in here as I will always remember there names, and sadly he was still talking about gangs. Did you come from the gorbals yourself, I live in Hospital street and also Kidson Street. I enjoy reading most of the comments on here most of us are getting on now but one thing is certain the gorbals spirit is still high. Thanks again, Charlie.

Submitted by: Charlie
Glasgow, Scotland
17/05/09
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I recently saw an anecdote on this forum directing contributors who ask about pubs to logon to - Glasgow Old Pubs.co.uk - I logged on and indeed it was informative and included many old photo's of pubs/streets etc, but one enquiry caught my eye. The webmaster was looking for info on an old Gorbals pub named : The Bundoran Bar. Correct me if I'm wrong but this pub was situated in Mathieson. I remember it when I was a liitle girl as my father sometimes helped out behind the bar. But maybe I'm wrong as I left Mathieson Street in 1959 aged 11.

Submitted by: V.S
London, England
17/05/09
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Just had to send my tuppence worth in and some memories too. What about the old dinner hall in (I think) Oregon street where we all went for free dinners during the summer holidays in the 50's.I remember a' the weans fae the Gorbals and the Oatlands lining up wether they were entitled or not. The food was no bad. On a Saturday we used to go to the matinee at the Paragon. You went in wae a coat and came oot wae a waistcoat. Those were the days. I remember Goin tae the Wolseley Hall on a Sunday. They gave you an icing bun then on Tuesdays it wis the Mission Hall on the corner of Logan st/Wolseley st for the tinny of hot peas. I'm familiar with many of the story tellers on this site and I will share more memories later. Cheers

Submitted by: Chris Wilson
B C, Canada
17/05/09
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FAO: Karin Kilna, if your dad Stanley was the younger brothers, Pat and Joe who lived in Warwick St/Nicholoson St., 1940/60, I knew the family well. they lived across the street from me.

Submitted by: Owen Dougan
Glasgow, Scotland
16/05/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


Hi Brian I have had a good look through all my photos, never seen a photo of Oxford lane, its still there as is the library but no houses on it now. Sorry I cant help. Bye for now, norrie

Submitted by: Norman McNamee
Glasgow, Scotland
16/05/09
Email: norman_mcnamee@hotmail.com


Is there anyone who went to the childrens homes like Auldhouse in Thornliebank or Gryffe in Bridge of Weir, would love to know whatever happened to the cruel people who ran these places. Life was a misery for most of those kids.. Its hard to believe that Scotland would treat her children in such a manner... Anyway bless all of you folks from the gorbals, you were the best. s

Submitted by: J Nicol
LA, USA
16/05/09
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I'm looking for a friend that i went to school with her name is betty bowden she was born on the 24 april 1951 and went to adelphi can any none help thanks

Submitted by: Janet Dunbar (Clark)
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16/05/09
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FAO: No tellin you; Thanks a million for making me laugh, at least someone has got a sense of humour, none of this bickering and melo drama, thats what I want to hear, funny light hearted fun, well done pal you made my day. theres a few odd balls around here for instance we had one writing in slang for years until he got told off, now the same person is doing it again under a different name, they must think us Gorbals boys are daft, I wish you a good day and thank you for your great sense of humour Melvin.

Submitted by: Melvin Bernstein
Glasgow, Scotland
16/05/09
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I finally paid a weekend visit to Gorbals after an absence of 21-years. I lived in Camden St during the 60's and saw the start of the demolition street by street. I didn't recognise the New Gorbals, the modern dwellings were an eyesore, and the local people were unfriendly. Also had the misfortune to enter the Brazen Head last Saturday morning during a live televised Old Firm match and the language and sectarianism was disgusting! Found it disappointing that this is the image of the New Modern Gorbals. Older ex-residents should come and take a look for themselves and you'll quickly lose any nostalgic views. I doubt if I'll be back as I met or knew anyone from the past. The Gorbals from the 50's - 60's is clearly a bygone era compared to 2009.

Submitted by: Mr J Paterson
Fife, Scotland
16/05/09
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FAO: Peter Riggs There are no tenements left in gorbals except for down at Norfork St and i dont even know if that came under Gorbals AS i think it always seems a wee lonely part and the only others i can think of is on Balleter St as for the pub they are mostly all gone The piggy The Glaswegian Sharkeys Riverside Laureston Sue Wester a think thats it. The family you speak of with the tradgedy that was there is none of that family left [rip] read Jamie Mcguigan post. as for Jim the JANNIE thanks Jim ur patters brill love ur post they cheer me up what a laugh u r keep thum cummin on yea go BIG JIM GEES A LAUGH

Submitted by: Big Jim
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16/05/09
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hi, jim the jannie. I Did'nt explain righr how I knew you I used to live across the road from you in the maisonettes, My mum still lives in the same house my Dad passed away as well, glad to hear you have lovely grandchildren, Billy and I two daughters Claire , Stacey, son Barrie but no grandchildren yet. Our Lorraine has 3 boys, Our John has 3 kids as well, I stay in Toryglen, Lorraine stays in one of the new houses in Queen Elizabeth gardens Gorbals very posh!!did you know that Scobie died?

Submitted by: Margaret (Kavanagh) Fullerton
Glasgow, Scotland
15/05/09
Email: margaret.fullerton@live.co.uk


Jimmy the Janitor please do not be so offended my dear friend, I do not know anyone personally on this site you included, but I treat everyone as a friend and expressions are taken out of the context of knowing someone basically by the manner in which they write in, I thought it was friendly, but in future I will not be using your name, there was no need to be sarcastic and send me kisses, I am not in need of a friend but if you are thats fine. It seems some people just dont grow up I mean what are you out to prove with writin from the dark ages, is it to make you look important, stand out, if so its you who needs the kisses, ha ha, lol Wee Charlie fae Toryglen.

Submitted by: Charlie McMurray
Glasgow, Scotland
15/05/09
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I lived in Oxford Lane in the 50s, I have never seen a photo of this lane ever anyyone got any pics of it?

Submitted by: Brian Donovan
Cambridge, Canada
15/05/09
Email: briandonovan@rogers.com


Hi I lived in Elmfoot Stree with my family since i was born 1942 till i left in1960 wondered if anyone remembers any of my family, my mother was kate and dad john a had 5 sisters.

Submitted by: John Daly
Irvine, Ayrshire
15/05/09
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Vic Bryce,I knew you and your brother Jim when you lived in Crown St.You were probably 3or 4yrs younger than me but your brother Jim and my brother were good friends.We lived across the back from you in Thistle St. I remember playing football with Jim in the back yard and also at the rec grounds in govanhill. Some names you may recall were the Taylors, Campbells and Gourlays. Hope you and your family are well. John Bonar

Submitted by: J Bonar
Melbourne, Austrailia
15/05/09
Email: jbonar@y7mail.com


Hi Janet of Paisley. I remember going to the George pictures and getting candy apples under the bridge. I loved Dennistoun Palais on a Saturday afternoon. Remember the DJ? I think his name was Dean Jeffries and all us silly wee lassies used to stand at the stage and hold our hands up for him to sign the back of them.lol.

Submitted by: May
Sydney, Austrailia
15/05/09
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Greetings J Boy, I see your active on the site again, your stories make me chuckle, are you still visiting the Brazen head now theres a place, well at least your back JB hope the missus is keepin well and send my regards mac your mate Tam Craig

Submitted by: Tam Craig
Tollcross, Glasgow
14/05/09
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F.A.O. CHARLIE MC MURRAY.jist tae make ye aware charlie, ah dont no ye, n u sertinly dont no me,bcause ye widnae hiv rote, that response, am a frend a BILL Ws,n av no hid a drink fer 4yrs, n sertinly never drank jars, unless they wer demi jars,full a whisky,funny u seem tae rite the wie a dae,anywie charly bhoy,lets hiv a bit craic,ye remembr,stix n stones,they did brek ma bones,bit c caus am an alkie,the names a goat cauld,hurt me mair,bit am gettin better noo a day at a time,ma brothers stil call me THE BIG JUMP THE DYKE,(if ye dont no wit that means,ma e-mail oan the post, wers urs?)so we kin aw hiv a laff thats wit av always dun,bit yer tryin tae make oot u no me,n if youv nae pals,al be yer pal,n we kin hiv a laff,tae ma frends o bill w,av no slipped,c yous aroon. the jannie,may ur god b with you,x

Submitted by: jim the jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
14/05/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


FAO Charlie McMurray, my dad was from Inverness and moved to the Gorbals early 50s, Himself and his brother,his name John Dignan. Also Fao Father Peter Devlin I knew a Peter Devlin from the Gorbals. Ann

Submitted by: Ann
Manchester
14/05/09
Email: ann.montgomery3@btopenworld.com


FAO No telling ye Thanks for the great story. Had a right good laugh at it. Could close my eyes and just picture it and you! Och, the innocence of weans, it does your heart good so it does. All the best. Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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14/05/09
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FAO Melvin well Melvin just think if they had Jim the jannie sending the codes during the war the germans would have been clueless

Submitted by: No telling ye
Brighton
14/05/09
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I Lived in Elmfoot Street from Birth 1942 till 1960 was wondering if anyone remembered my family,mother was Kate dad was John

Submitted by: John Daly
Oatlands, Glasgow
14/05/09
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F.A.O. Doris thanks for the mention,did you get the class photos of st bonnies in the fifties i sent via your niece a while ago.hope you and tq keep up the stories

Submitted by: jack (ben) duffy
Basingstoke, Hants
14/05/09
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FAO T Reid (Canada) Are you Anthony Reid who was an alter boy in St. John? My family stayed up 27 Salisbury then moved to a room and Kitchen up Georges dairy close where the McGuires lived. Mrs Bradley had the other shop and then there was Chrisses the fruit shop at the top of the road. My brothers name is Pat Welsh. Annie Burrell was a pal of mine and also May O'Brien (fathers nickname was Father O' Brien) May passed away a few years ago she would be 74 if she were living. Remember Wullie Grat I think he stayed up top flat and then there was George Hughes over in 23 "Boots" was his nickname.Wullie Robertson and his sister Margaret stayed up your close he pallied about with my brother always wore big crepe soled shoes. Do you have connections who stay in East Kilbride ?

Submitted by: AmeliaMcKinlay nee Welsh
Glasgow, Scotland
14/05/09
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com


Hi vicky, email me and I will send you photos of Lawmoor st. Bye for now, norrie

Submitted by: Norman McNamee
Glasgow, Scotland
14/05/09
Email:
norman_mcnamee@hotmail.com


Lived at 14 Salisbury st from 1939 to 1960 remember wullie grant at 16, mick mc guire next to georges dairy and remember the birrels and the grant sister who lived across the street.

Submitted by: T Reid
Hamilton, Canada
14/05/09
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ROSE DOYLE, Very interesting the pubs ye mentioned, I ken most of them, I was born in Inverness but moved to the Gorbals in 1948, I ken whit ye say about someone sending you a mail that wis impersenating Jim the Janie, me thinks he did send it because its his style of writin, but I think he must have had a few jars knowin him heh heh, not to worry its a guid letter, my maw came from Donegal, Mary Strain, ye might have heard of the family. bye for now Charlie

Submitted by: Charlie McMurray
Glasgow, Scotland
14/05/09
Email: Not Supplied


Repost for newcomers to the site. I am looking for info or anyone who remembers my grandad. He was Patrick James Boyle born in Glasgow in 1908, served in the Pioneers in ww2 so i believe, and married Mary Ann Kilkie in 1935, died at 10 1/2 Eglinton Lane in 1946. Another address i have for them is 132 South Portland St around 1939-40. Patrick may have originally been from Thornleighbank, Mary Kilkie (my Gran} Lived at 4 Roukenburn Street in 1933 before they were married. If anybody is related to a Boyle family please ask about Patrick as all record of him has vanished...he was my grandad and i know nothing of him or even a burial plot. Please if anyone can help in anyway i will be so grateful.

Submitted by: Tommy Boyle
Leicestershire, England
13/05/09
Email:tommyketchup123@hotmail.com


FAO Charlie - No doubt, you’ll never hear a word of apology from any of the cumbie for what they did to you, because they don’t have it in them. I’m sorry that happened to you and that you still have the marks on your face to this day. All that just for having a scooter and keeping company with other enthusiasts from Maryhill! I would love to think that those bampots got some mental help because they really need it, but somehow I doubt it. Unfortunately Charlie you’re one of the many that have a reminder of the violence when they look in the mirror every day. Others might not have scars staring back at them but have suffered a terrible tole emotionally. People on here make comments about people moaning about the past, when you can’t change it, well comments like this are no consolation to victims and only victimizes them all over again. Of course the ones making these comments probably didn’t suffer from the cumbie’s dirty deeds, thanks to either their families, free! ns or their own connections with the cumbie mob. So as long as they were all right, to hell with everyone else! It would be really interesting to actually find out just how many people in total were victims. Anyway Charlie glad you still loved the gorbals and have fond memories as well. All the best to you and thanks for sharing your story. This site is supposed to be about memories of the gorbals and all the people who have them. Don’t be put off or let anyone dictate to you about what you can or can’t write about. Your memories are your memories and if someone doesn't like your story they don't have to read it! Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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13/05/09
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To M. Bernstein..you can't criticise Ten Quid or Jim The Jannie for the way they write that is just being arrogant. We all get great pleasure from them and even Colin Macfarlane has been criticised about his fine book...The Real Gorbals Story. My suggestion to all of you that find time to criticise the various writers on this site is write a book yourself and then we'll see how good you are! The Gorbals poeple are all over the world and proud of who they are...they do not need anyone to criticise how they write. Lang may oor lums reek! johnny boy devlin

Submitted by: Johnny Boy Devlin
Glasgow, Scotland
13/05/09
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R hayes from 29 Hospital St the southside to Ten Quid. I like the old Glasgow slang it reminds you where you come from, a past that cant be brought back, and to see it in print, its like working out a puzzle, it comes back to you bit by bit and brings back the memories with it, good and bad. Your a true Gorbals lad you carry on sending.

Submitted by: Robin Hayes
Manchester, Lancashire
13/05/09
Email: bombpipe@hotmail.co.uk


A warm "Hello" to everyone, I have not wrote in for awhile, but still enjoy reading the wonderful messages you send in with a lot of interest. To those of you who know me, I have had to go into Hospital my left leg as you know was removed after a car accident in Argyle street has been causing me a lot of pain, its probably my own fault, I never seem to be able to rest I am known as Father Long John Silver here in Stirling! Its good to read all the news and banter I really enjoy letters sent in from Doris, she is a funny person, Wee blether, Nan Cameron, and Ten Quid who seems to be getting a wee bit grumpy recently, lighten up and lets hear more old tales from the Gorbals, anyways it nice to be using the computer again, Bless you all Father Peter Devlin.

Submitted by: Father Peter Devlin
Stirling, Scotland
13/05/09
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FAO David W - Diamond's dancing academy, what an elegant name, we ran about there 1947/48, if old Joe saw you slow foxtrotting wrong he'd cut in and dance with you, very embarassing for a sixteen year old boy, glad I graduated---is that correct ??---and moved on to Barrowland, anybody know when Diamond's closed??

Submitted by: Charley Broon
Winnipeg, Canada
13/05/09
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Anyone come from salisbury street, do you remember the mc cafferty's at 14 and the mcguire's who live next to georges dairy there was also the grants and birrels and sutherlands. There was david maxwell the movers under the railway and the sawmill at the corner of cumberland st and salisbury st.

Submitted by: Tony
Hamilton, Canada
13/05/09
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I wish we all could get along a little better. I lived in los angeles during the riots and it was horrendeous. We are all good people. Let ten quid talk his stories and jim the jannie talk his. Theres a bigger world out there that is fascinating and actually quite scary. All I can say say is there is an existential horror today about life. Nietzsche had it right Even if we are bound to be mortal enemies, lets at least remember when we were friends for a while......So all you gorbals folk, may god bless you all and take care of you, for you are the salt of the earth ....J parker

Submitted by: J Parker
Emporia, USA
13/05/09
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With so many anecdotes mentioning dear old Oatlands and Bonnie's school, thought I'd say Hello to anyone that remembers me.

Submitted by: Chic Croft
Glasgow, Scotland
12/05/09
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Can anyone remember the name of the crisps factory and who owned it, it sat on south portland street in the 1940s? Hi to agnes herrity, i'm still looking for that info, nobody seems to know. Shona

Submitted by: Shona
Glasgow, Scotland
11/05/09
Email: shonzi@hotmail.co.uk


My family came from the gorbals my dads name was Stanley Kilna and my mums name was Helen Connor. My papa used to sell papers on the corner of Norfolk St next to the Glaswegian Pub does anyone remember them?

Submitted by: KAREN KILNA
Glasgow, Scotland
11/05/09
Email: kkilna10@caledonian.ac.uk


F.A.O margaret fullerton, how the devil r you? good to hear from ye margaret, hope u n ur famly r well. THE VENNY, wit a gang hut that wis,loads a laffs,n loads a secrets? well margaret, linda n i hiv 6 granweans noo, oor vicky 30, hiz 4 bhoyz fae 13yrs doon tae 4yrs, n oor barry 28, hiv a wee bhoy 4, n a wee lassie 14mths auld. Thats linda n i 34yrs merrit noo (wit a sentence fir her) my ma n da hiv passed over. Billys in paisley styin, n still dain his caretaker, oor robert still styin n brigtin, linda n i r styin in knightswood noo, am retired thru ill health, bit lindas still keepin me, shes a senior housin officer wie thistle up in toryglen. anywie margaret drap me a wee note, n let us know how u n billy n yer famlys r keepin. ma e-mails at the bottum, a the post as always nice hearin fae ye, may ur god b with u (james) THE JANNIE X

Submitted by: Jim the Jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
11/05/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


The explosion at the starch work in Surrey St. I believe killed about fifteen people. It happened the morning after the longest air raid to date. Evarybody thought it was an unexploded bomb, but it was a fault in the boiler house. I am seventy nine.

Submitted by: NICKY McKENZIE
Erskine, Scotland
11/05/09
Email: nicky@mckenzie162.fsnet.co.uk


FAO Ten Q. Hello and subsequent to my previous letter, I note that you sent several letters to this site and they were not printed the Web masters clearly says at the top of the page contact him and he will help you, sorry as I said I am not in that position, I have enclosed my e mail for you if you wish to write to me personally thats fine. You clearly state "If someone does not like a letter, do not bother with it, ignore it and move on" thats your advice to others, but you have not taken that advise yourself, so how can you expect others, please air your grievances via my email so not to disturb the readers of this site. My sincere best wishes to you, as I said I always enjoyed reading your letters my post on the 8/5. was sent on the same day you wrote in in, amazing stuff, hope you get the picture thank you Melvin.

Submitted by: Melvin Bernstein
Glasgow, Scotland
11/05/09
Email: bernstein.melvin@yahoo.co.uk


I lived in Thistle St for several years in the late 60's/early 70's. Was intrigued to read a recent posting which mentioned the surname Kenney. I knew a family of that name from the bottom of Hospital St. Their daughter was killed in tragic circumstances in the late 70's. [RIP]. I enjoyed my 8-years in Thistle St, and remember having my first pint of beer in the Govanhill Bar also in Thistle St. Would this pub still be there? Are there any tenements actually still standing in Thistle St? Hope one day I can come for a visit and look for myself. Great message board for ex-Gorbals residents.

Submitted by: Peter Riggs
Manchester, Lancs
11/05/09
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I'm looking for a lady who lived in moncur street in 1961. i think it was number 82. her name is catherine lafferty who i think was born in 1941.

Submitted by: Cathrine
Edinburgh, Scotland
09/05/09
Email: cathhal@aol.co.uk


Blimey!! I really have to laugh at some contrbutors claiming the moral ground by declaring themselves null & void on the forum due to 'bickering'. Could it be that new and exciting enquiries or stories are boring you? Every forum needs fresh 'input' or they become clogged up with the same old anecdotes from the same old tired people. Try reading alternative Glasgow websites which contain a free message board - they eventually die a death after 3 or 4 years. I for one welcome new contributors even if they DO cause controversey. Long Live the Gorbals! Old and New!

Submitted by: Old Timer
Glasgow, Scotland
09/05/09
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I dont understand what all the whining is about. I thought all we gorbals folk were one. Can't we tell each other stories of how it was when we were young in the tenements. You know you are all good people, so lets have some memories of how wonderful it was to be young, running about in our berries, the bum hanging out of our trousers, or are we too sophisticated to admit it... we were the salt of the earth.

Submitted by: J Parker
Emporia, USA
09/05/09
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If I could back in time I would. the greatest people in the world are the folks from the gorbals. Most of my life has been spent in America,, It is a wonderful country yet I know there is a lot of anti amercanism in my home again, If you could understand how poor some people are here you would change your mind. I would give all I have to go back for just a wee while. I wish all of you nothing but the best. No matter what you believe May god bless you all

Submitted by: Jack Parker
Wichita Kansas, USA
09/05/09
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Does anyone remember going to the george pictures on saturday afternoon, walking under the bridge to buy toffee apples and hot nut before, or going to the denison paly on saturday afternoons?

Submitted by: Janet
Paisley, Scotland
09/05/09
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Anybody remember Miss Feeney an absolute stalwart with St. John's in Portugal St.in the 50s helping and looking after the needy everywhere organising school holiday camps etc. A real champion Lady

Submitted by: Frank Ford
Whyalla, Australia
09/05/09
Email: FrankFordWHY@GMAIL.COM


To Jamie McGuigan - I was saddened to read Frankie Kenny had passed away. I knew him slightly at Bonnie's. His family came from Hospital Street. I'm sure my brother once worked with him in the Nederlands about 1992.

Submitted by: Bootsy
Glasgow,Scotland
09/05/09
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To Auld Soo Sider - I also remember Miss Daley the music teacher at Bonnie's. Her dog died of distemper and she struggled to get over it. I left Bonnie's in 1972 when we were temporarily up in Grange School, Langside.

Submitted by: Bootsy
Glasgow,Scotland
09/05/09
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To Jamie McGuigan - Don't forget that 1971 Bonnie's football team included Wullie Espie the goalie, Kenny Donnelly, and Jamesy Philbinn.

Submitted by: Bootsy
Glasgow, Scotland
09/05/09
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FAO David W Florida The diamonds has been mentioned a way back not a lot though. My big sister went there she used to work in Grants Standfast whiskey bond in Warwick (Nicholson) St. got married out of there. she's a great dancer.

Submitted by: AmeliaMcKinlay nee Welsh
Glasgow, Scotland
08/05/09
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com


F.A.O no tellin ye, magic, av got an image in ma heid, wie u runnin aboot croon st, wie that noseband oan, ta fer the laff, the jannie.

Submitted by: Jim the Jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
08/05/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


In response to Brian Hastie, my name is James McGuigan. I think I was one of your top team in 1971, along with Frank Kenney (RIP), Colin Bryson, Tony Healy, Wee Smiddy (John Smith) to name a few. I left Bonnies in 1974/1975. I also have an older brother Stephen, who was a Bonnies' boy also, a year above me. My younger sister Patricia, unfortunately passed away recently. Hope all is OK with your family. Am sure you have been living in 'happy retirement' now. Hopefully anyone who recognises me from this team is living a good life and with good health. I left Glasgow over 30 years ago (the Souside), my parents are still there (John and Margaret). I am now married with 3 sons living in Kent. Feel free to contact me if you recognise me and want to get in touch. Us Bonnies' boys had a reputation for behaving badly, but teachers behaving badly was something else.... hahaha!

Submitted by: James McGuigan
West Wickham, Kent
08/05/09
Email: jmkcmcguigan@btinternet.com


FAO: Vicky, Surrey. Book "Gorbals". Lovely Book, "Glasgow's People" by Oscar Marzaroli (Award Photographer) ISBN No. 1851585923 try Amazon or Abebooks. Cheers Bill

Submitted by: Bill Shields
Perth, Australia
08/05/09
Email: garbeta@iinet.net.au


To Jim the Jannie; You mention that we are all entitled to our own opinions, well may I ask why you have questioned mine. Live an let live. What I said and pointed out was simple, people who used to make me laugh, or enjoy their stories are no longer on the site, an example, Ten Q, he hardly writes in now, my question was polite Why? It does not mention your name, although it does refer to slang being used as I find it difficult to read and do not see the point. However if the large population of friends are no longer writing in, yes I do feel theres no point in writing until I find out why at least twenty or so people who continually write in here have stopped. Maybe my wording was not the best but that was my message, certainly not a threat as you imply, I love this site but I also love to read all my friends stories, hope you understand, but do not get upset, try to air your views as I did, you take care, Melvin

Submitted by: Melvin Bernstein
Glasgow, Scotland
08/05/09
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FAO: alice buckley (lyons) hello alice your a hard wee lassie to find. i live in the north east as well so i think we live close to each other it would to good to catch up and have a blether, get in touch on gorbals site. cheers ann

Submitted by: Ann Davies (Kerr)
England
08/05/09
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Hi agnes, sorry havent been on site lately but i gave it a miss for a while with all the bickering. I love the site but cant be bothered with all that moaning, i notice a few of the regular users have done the same. hope you and yours are keeping ok. i was up in glasgow a couple of weeks ago for my cousins wedding it was fabulous, pipes, kilts, the whole scottish thing it was great just to hear the glasgow patter again you cant beat it. so keep safe agnes....ann

Submitted by: Ann Davies (Kerr)
England
08/05/09
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I remember living in 351 crown st above the bakers that sold the rolls in 1953 I was about seven at the time and we had a grassy back (we thought we were snobs) and I was always building bogies so one day one of the neighbours threw out a smallboy (wee wardrobe) and I saw it had a bevelled door and thought that i could make a good shield like lancelots from it so I got a saw and sawed it in half with it going to a point at the bottom of it then painted it and it looked like the real thing straight out of a film so I made a wooden sword to go with it and stuck it in my snake belt after that i got the pole off the sweeping brush and a wool cone likly nicked out of tomax and stuck the pole through it and that was my lance im telling you I didnt half look the part at this time my Ma was pregnant and was having the birth at home so the house was full of medical boxes so I was prowling through the boxes and I found these doctors masks and they just fitted me I could fit them! over my mouth and hook them on my ears so I had my mask, sword, shield, and lance and went out to play it was a cracking day and crown st was full of shoppers I was running up and down crown st and everybody was looking at me and pointing even from across the street and people passing I could see them looking out the side of their eyes (pure admiration) as I said before I didnt half look the part years later when I was about 13 14 I was embarrassed for weeks when I found out what a sanitary towel was I will never live it down sanny

Submitted by: No telling ye
Brighton, England
08/05/09
Email: Not Supplied


Melvin Bernstien you seem to have a short memory when you and your mob tried to humiliate people's wrightings and stories mine in particular. I think you are the Webmaster, I wrote up poems 3 times and they never got printed on the site read in the right context it was funny according to the people I have sent to. I enjoyed writing in the Gorbals I wrote True stories and tried to give funny endings. When people contacted me by e-mail asking me why I wasn't writing I said they are going the same way as the daily record insulting people and not telling any stories of the Gorbals past there is no Gorbals like the old Gorbals but then there are some people who don't like to hear the truth or admit that they lived in such a slum especially the ground floor houses with overflowing toilets and ashes dumped in a back close. I said that this would happen and I also said if you don't like people stories just don't read them. Pass them by and let them go on their way what gets me is I have had a few stories and and you were concerned in them and not one of them was printed and I suppose this one won't be either 10 quid

Submitted by: 10 Quid
Oz
08/05/09
Email: Not Supplied


Hi Linda Duffy its your cousin Angela here. How are you? I hope you are well. Sorry to here about your mum. Do you have an email address if you do but you dont want to put it on this site, you if you scroll down the page you find a note dated the 21/4/09 there you will find my email address. I have been in touch with uncle Kenny he has gave me some info on my dad your uncle Jim but would like some more, so anything that you could tell me would be great. Hope to here from you soon Angela

Submitted by: Angela Thompson
Eyemouth, Scottish Borders
07/05/09
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Mr sandman I meant mc sorleys and the quo vadis when i said never again I always drink in the laurieston, glaswegian, kiloran, brazen, pig n whistle the tavern the star all the way up to pollockshaws and never a problem it must be the women!!

Submitted by: Not Supplied
Not Supplied
07/05/09
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FAO Sandra, Brighton. Thanks for your post. I'd love any info you have on those pubs, also The Seaforth.

Submitted by: Rose Doyle
Donegal, Ireland
07/05/09
Email: rosedoyle1@hotmail.com


I agree with M.Bernstein that misuse of the English language is confusing, although I don't know if this is the reason several well known contributors have stopped posting. Thing is: If anyone used parliamo Glasgow on a CV or Form it would be deemed unreadable or unsuitable. Correct me if I'm wrong!

Submitted by: Old Timer
Glasgow, Scotland
07/05/09
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To Rosemary...sorry but i am not that johnny boy but i do hope you find him! To Owen..thanks for that as The Real Gorbals Story book talks about the belt but it was written about a time before it was banned in schools...but at least i won the bet! To old Billy...tell the truth and shame the devil! johnny boy devlin

Submitted by: Johnny Boy Devlin
Glasgow, Scotland
07/05/09
Email: Not Supplied


Re does anyone know Miss Daley, music teacher at Bonnies'? I do - all she did was play hymns, especially 'Out of the Depths' I still remember the words of that hymn even now. Other music teachers taught their pupils to play instruments!! I do not think any of the teachers had it easy in that school, infact I think they all deserve a medal for surviving the likes of me and my peers. Re bus accident in the soo-side, it was Ricky Shannon who died as well as the other two children, Ricky did survive to make it to the hospital. Miss Daley played hymns for the whole lesson when he died and the same for Paul Foley of the Oatlands when he died too. I think she thought it would cheer us up!! I remember going to the George cinema in Crown St after my visit to Lennox's sweet shop, no worrying about additives in your sweets then, they were toxic by today's standards. It is nice to see so many old familiar names and mentions of street names - good luck and good health to ever! yone of you and your families - regardless of where you are now!

Submitted by: Auld soo sider
Llanfair, Wales
07/05/09
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FAO Vicky: Just realized that it was you and not Tom who requested pictorial info.

Submitted by: Joan Fletcher
USA
07/05/09
Email: artandjoan@att.net


FOUND SMALL GOLD ROUND MEMORY BOX CELTIC CROSS ON FRONT NAME INSIDE HANNA CAIRNS - ANY IDEAS?

Submitted by: Gordon
Glasgow, Scotland
07/05/09
Email: gogsey64@live.co.uk


FAO AFG- Thanks for reminding me about the Seaforth. And of course the Glen was The Glenbervie. Any more?

Submitted by: Rose Doyle
Donegal, Ireland
06/05/09
Email: rosedoyle1@hotmail.com


Someone pretending to be Jim the Jannie has replied to a posting of mine on 5th May. How cowardly.

Submitted by: Rose Doyle
Donegal, Ireland
06/05/09
Email: rosedoyle1@hotmail.com


I left the Gorbals in 1972 and moved to Castlemilk, Croftfoot Quad, lived there till 1993 when I moved into Croftfoot Road, and I am still here, and I love it, Castlemilk is a great place to live and has a lot of great people. Agnes.

Submitted by: Agnes
Glasgow, Scotland
06/05/09
Email: agnesherrity@hotmail.co.uk


FAO m bernstien you are the one that keeps going on about people on this site writing in slang what is wrong with that? you say you are well educated cant you read it and that is why you are getting upset. if you dont like it dont read it.

Submitted by: John
Glasgow, Scotland
06/05/09
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F.A.O: the person who posted 05/05/09 tae rose doyle using ma non de plume, c the next time wen ur 2 feart tae use ur ain name gonna add ma e-mail address!!! ahll apologise tae ye rose a never, n, neverwid, mislead anybody aboot the gorbals, check ma previous posts a ma e-mail is oan everywan. F.A.O: MELVIN am also educated, born in nicholson st, moved tae cavendish st, never mind yer color or religion, they 2 words hiv caused every WAR that wis ever started, since time began, ye likely ur mer clever than me, n better educated, c some times a hid tae dog skool cause ma maw wis no well, n somedy hidtae get ma das dinner oan, or ma wid get a slap fae ma auld man, or else a wis no well, n missed sum education, bit al say this ye dont hiv tae be a skool dux tae sher yer memories oan this site. also ye cudnae hiv been brot readin the sunday, ie the broons, n oor wullie, yel c the words weans, CHILDREN, OUR WILLIAM, MOTHER BROWN, GRANDFATHER BROWN, SMALL JAMES WILLIAMS WEE MOUSE, ECK ALEXANDER, CMON THAT GUY WHO ROTE THE STORIES WIS EDUCATED, he wis a fine story teller of his day n a hid nae problem understaunin his print. Loosen up melvin we are ordinary folk from the gorbals maest us hid nuttin but each other, wit mair could emdy ask fer, evrywan ae us is entitled tae an opinion, jist like u, so dont frettin the site n rite that ye mite no rite again, ye could possibly help sumdy, find sumdy or rekindle a memry, drap yer PRIDE, n keep ritin, wish ye well the jannie.

Submitted by: Jim the Jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
06/05/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


Hi Angela Thompson - I am your cousin Lynda. Uncle Hughies eldest daughter my mum auntie Anna passed away 6 years ago. I would be happy to help you with any information about the family.

Submitted by: Lynda Duffy (nee Warren)
London, England
06/05/09
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Rose Doyle, very interesting and very good, I checked in my gorbals diaries and your spot on, some of those pubs went years ago before my time, but you got them all correct, if you need confirmation I can send you mail on each individual pub, cheerio Sandrast to every one no matter were you all are in this great world just remember":we are the people" DAM

Submitted by: Sandra
Brighton, England
06/05/09
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uch, see you oor Melvin, no matter were we go there is always some kind of mac farlang lang (slang) and why is it that people always remember the not so good stuff about people and cannie wait ti slag that person or people ah mean ah used to have to listen to things about ma wee brother n sister but it did not stop me from loving them no matter what people had to say and they paid for all their wrong choices in their road through this life time . So melvin ah goaat a new hearing aid wan o them kind behinde the ear ,which ah dont like so it bothered my ear and gave me a wee rash, so I needed a band aid and the only kind I had was for kids so being me I stuck this blue n yellar wan in . Right next thing I hear is wow Doris are you up to all the latest fads what I reply well I see you have one of the new phones in your ear oh aye right pure magic just call me anytime it looked like it was one of them ear phones because of the way the bliddy band aid was in my ear. Noo Melvin my educated friend di yi understaun all this. wish ah hid a better education bet ah wid hiv been the furst woman president as i do consider myself pretty smart maybe not on a lot of things but on how to make money (which ah jist love) and be kinda set for life plus my family as well. again education is very important and I keep on to my family about it but alas they have never listened to me and do their own thing. So again melvin my friend you keep up the good work and help others who need you. All the best to every one no matter were you all are in this great world just remember":we are the people" DAM

Submitted by: Doris McIntyre
Slo, USA
06/05/09
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Sorry I dont remember you brian, but good health to you anyway. I lived down the lane at Nicholson street near the Clyde. I have lived in America most of my life, but the gorbals will never leave me, bless all of you Jack Parker

Submitted by: Jack Parker
Wichita Kansas, USA
06/05/09
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FAO Big Mac (Dorset) They have put up 6 big columns on the r/h side of Devon St. looking from Pollokshaws rd.on McKinlay st right across to Eglington St. Then they have started on the spare ground accross from Abbotsford school we called it the "piggy wiggy" right over to Cathcart Rd. then across to the other side of Cathcart Rd and it is coming out round about where the Glencairn was in Glasgow Rd going towards the Oatlands. It's supposed to be joining up where the Kingston bridge was left just hanging in space down at Cook st. Maybe if you go into the Mitchell library you might see something about it, but as I've said on this site before Cathcart Rd has now two bends in it where it was always a straight rd. They found a "hidden Village" in McKinlay St. when they were digging it up for the motorway and the archealogists were there but they have covered it up now. Hope this helps you. So your wee house isnae there anymore. I came from down the road from you Salisbury and when we were young if you came from McKinlay St. you were a "toff". Amelia

Submitted by: Amelia McKinlay (nee Welsh)
Glasgow, Scotland
06/05/09
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com


I'm wondering how many old "Gorbalonians " out there remember the "Diamonds " dance hall on Gorbals St. I'm quite surprised, that over the years I have never seen a mention of this wonderful establishment. I used to dance there in the late 40's and early 50's....you young'uns out there, ask your parents.

Submitted by: David W
Fort Lauderdale, Florida
06/05/09
Email: haggis1530@aol.com


Robert from Glasgow. My grandfather James Smith had a brother Robert (Bertie) and a brother John. They all worked as carters. They also had a sister Louisa (Louie). Bertie was married to Jeannie Carroll and they lived in Hospital St I think. Are you related? If so, please email me.

Submitted by: May
Sydney, Australia
06/05/09
Email: mary.farries@optus.com.au


FOA Vicky, Surrey, England. There is a book titled The Gorbals, An Illustrated History by Eric Eunson. It's published by Richard Stenlake Publishing, Ayrshire. The ISBN number is 1872074685. It has tons of photo's of the Gorbals including one of Lawmoor St. I think it would revive a lot of memories for your granma. Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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06/05/09
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FAO Billy- Your dad would have drunk in The Glaswegian, The Laurieston, The Mally Arms, The Rendevous and The Star Bar to name a few. Perhaps also The Castle.

Submitted by: Rose Doyle
Donegal, Ireland
05/05/09
Email: rosedoyle1@hotmail.com


Thanks Barfly for publicising website regarding links to old Gorbals pubs. Logged on to find many interesting stories, photo's, and memories. WWW.OLDGLASGOWPUBS.CO.UK

Submitted by: Bill
Gorbals, Glasgow
05/05/09
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In reply to G.Miller, I also remember dozens of pupils walking down Polmadie Road to attend St. Bonaventure's secondary school. I came from Polmadie Street and attended St. Bonaventure's 66-69. I remember so much dereliction in Polmadie and Oatlands. There was no direct bus route from Govanhill or Polmadie, so everyone had to walk it down Calder Street, turning left down Polmadie Rd. A long walk during cold and dark winters days.

Submitted by: Dave McP
Glasgow, scotland
05/05/09
Email: MacP68@aol.com


FAO Tom: The best pictorial I have seen is " The Gorbals"- An Illustrated History, published by Stenlake Publishing. www.stenlake.co.uk

Submitted by: Joan Fletcher
USA
05/05/09
Email: artandjoan@att.net


FAO: Johnny Boy, are you our nephew? You see there was only one JB in the Gorbals and we have not seen him for years. We just want to know how he is Thank you. Rosemary

Submitted by: Rosemary Thomson
Glasgow, Scotland
05/05/09
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I had to laugh at the recent postings from ex-Glaswegians living down South visiting Glasgow pubs and being refused service! When I return to Glasgow - Gorbals for a visit, I never fail to receive a very warm welcome from friendly staff in the Glaswegian Bar, Bridge Street, Laurieston. Local Gorbals staff. You can't beat anyone from the Gorbals, or it's pubs!

Submitted by: Mr Sandman
Woking, Surrey
05/05/09
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Can anyone help find details of my family, i have recently started to build my family tree and and i am finding difficult to get information on the Sinclair family from Oatlands, i believe that they were bricklayers who had a business in South Wellington Street and lived in Dyres Lane in the late 1800 hundreds.

Submitted by: Les Sinclair
Glasgow, Scotland
05/05/09
Email: leslie.sinclair@ntlworld.com


Ach away ye go Rosie Doyle. A followed yer trail of Gorbals pubs and fur the life o' mi, a canny find sum a thay pubs yer old man mentioned. A think yer awe mixed up.

Submitted by: Jim the Jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
05/05/09
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fao Johny boy. the tawse was banned from state schools in 1986. from private schools in 1998.

Submitted by: Owen Dougan
Glasgow, Scotland
05/05/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


Re pubs from Gorbals Cross to Cumberland St, You missed The Seaforth. Which was opposite The Citizens bar

Submitted by: AFG
London, England
05/05/09
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I have been writing and reading on this web site for a few years and thoroughly enjoyed it, I have met three school mates and it was all thanks to this Gorbals site. However I have recently noticed that a lot of the old faces do not write in anymore, is this because they are fed up with the recent Irish bickering or is it some sort of conspiracy, I say this because recently I complained about a letter not being in English and very difficult to understand, so the webmaster posted saying this did not matter people can write in another language known as slang, I think most of the people on here are educated and like me find it annoying and difficult to comprehend, we are here to enjoy make friends thats how I view it, but if it means losing ones friends then I will find no point in writing in, it will be sad for me, but if you cannot raise a point of view whats the point? I was born in Abbotsford place it was tough in those days especially as I was tanned and Jewish, but! the Gorbals people for me will never be replaced they were the best. So can we be allowed to have our point of view back before we start to lose everyone? Glaswegians were always allowed to make points without being told off.Many Thanks Melvin

Submitted by: Melvin Bernstein
Glasgow, Scotland
05/05/09
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Anyone else leave gorbals to get a house in castlemilk at the time it was great we had a five apartment on barlia dr then glenacre. O'Neill was the name luv anne

Submitted by: Anne Brannan
St.Catharines, Ontario
05/05/09
Email: annebrannan44@hotmail.com


I was brought up in the Gorbals during the 50's and remember there were various schools at just about every street corner. Can anyone list what's left now? With a dwindling population and smaller families, there can only be a handful of schools in operation.

Submitted by: Anonymous
Helensburgh, Scotland
05/04/09
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Killed in 2nd World War on ss maritima 1942 his farther was Michael married Rose Harkin/ thanks Jim McLaughlin

Submitted by: John McLaughlin
Paisley, Scotland
04/04/09
Email: natlane16@btinternet.com


In reply to recent messages regarding old Gorbals pubs, there's a website called Oldglasgowpubs.co.uk which has nostalgic information and photographs of many Glasgow pubs, including several links, photo's, stories, & info on dozens of long gone but not forgotten Gorbals pubs.

Submitted by: Bar Fly
Glasgow, Scotland
04/04/09
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I have a book that has I think all the old names of streets in the Gorbals,if anyone wishes to know the original name of the street they lived in just e-mail me and I will get back to you. for example-crown Street-used to be Academy court. Rose st, then Florance st, used to be called ADAMS ST. caledonia Road, used to be ALBERT TERRACE up to number394- and 396-398 were called ALBERT VIEW. Agnes.

Submitted by: Agnes Herrity
Glasgow, Scotland
04/04/09
Email: agnesherrity@hotmail.co.uk


Just caught this site a few weeks back, I used to live in Hospital street in the 1950-78 since lived up in snob land now, went to Adelphi Terrace , would like to know if anyone went there between 64-67 . I used to work in the Citizens actually played in there as well as an actor on four occasions, I had an old Lambretta LD, scuting up and down Cumberland street, I used to go around Maryhill with the fleet as they were the only ones that done anything with scooters, but aas it happens the boys from the cumbie found out unfortunately I still have the marks in my face to this day.Still loved the gorbals and will never forget my time there. Charlie

Submitted by: Charlie
Glasgow, Scotland
04/04/09
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Long before I retired and moved to Largs from the infamous Hutchie E blocks, I regularly used a cafe on Monday nights in Bridge Street for a lovely meal. This was between 1980 to 1984. The cafe was on the same side as Brigge St underground going towards the city-centre. I'd imagine its no longer there. I often wonder what happened to the proprietor and his lovely waitresses.

Submitted by: Tom
Largs, Scotland
04/04/09
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Does anyone know the Title Names of any Pictorial books regarding the Gorbals? My granma was originally from Lawmoor Street, and I'd like to surprise her on her forthcoming birthday with a nostalgic book about the Area she often talks about.

Submitted by: Vicky
Surrey, England
03/04/09
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I don't know if this anecdote is suitable for publication, but who still remembers visiting the Doctor's Surgery at Abbotsford Place? I had to take my 5 kids there for one reason or another!! We all lived nearby in Surrey Street till about 1966 when our tenement was declared unsafe. My, how times change.

Submitted by: H.D.
Glasgow, Scotland
02/04/09
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My son James McGilligan [now living down under] played football for St. Bonaventures Secondary School around 1968 to 1970. Anyone out there remember him?

Submitted by: Mrs F. McGilligan
Glasgow, Scotland
02/04/09
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Always interesting to read the names of old Gorbals pubs when someone lists them. As a boy in the early 60's my late father used to boast of doing a pub crawl all the way from Start of Bridge Street to Eglinton Toll near the Larkfield Bus Depot. I can remember the - So'wester? Office bar, Gordons, & Maxwell bars. But there must have been many more, particularly on the Railway side of Eglinton Street. And what a busy main road that was during the 60's!! Is there anyone from old Laurieston out there able to add to my 4 pubs?

Submitted by: Billy
East Kilbride, Scotland
02/04/09
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I read with interest there's some type of ring-road or motorway being planned for the Gorbals. As an ex-resident of McKinlay Street [1971-78], I'd like to know where exactly this road is going through?

Submitted by: Big Mac
Dorset, England
02/04/09
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To Karum Din. I've emailed you,but maybe I screwed it up. Does any one remember Buchan Street Primary, The Palace picture house, the Geggies on Eglinton Street? I remember walking down the street arms around each other, pals for life. Yes, we were certainly poor, but jeez what happy memories can come even from a terrible environment, to paraphrase Dostoevsky. Karum take care buddy, bless all you " gorbalites"

Submitted by: Jack Parker
Kansas, USA
01/04/09
Email: sadienicol@peoplepc.com


Just stumbled onto this Forum by default. Magnificent anecdotes from such a diversity of people. But spare a thought for dozens of us who resided in Govanhill, and attended the old St. Bonaventure's secondary school. Loads of us would trample down Polmadie Rd en-route to school in all weathers. Remember Vics Bakery and getting an illegal ride on the bin wagons heading up to Polmadie incinerator. Knew so many pals from the Oatlands and Gorbals, despite the dereliction all around us. Left Bonnies in 1971 and never saw the place again. That's life I suppose. Even Govanhill eventually changed!!

Submitted by: George Miller
London, England
01/04/09
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Johnny Boy; Hello there, Go up the Barras and you will get that Mc Farlane book for only one pound, theres loads and loads so you will get one easy peasy, I thought it was lacking myself but there you go, Billy.

Submitted by: Billy Malcom
Glasgow, Scotland
01/04/09
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FAO sandra/brighton Ditto. Three years ago I went up to glasgow and the same thing happened I met my brother in law and\his workmate in the centre of glasgow on a friday when they finished work and we went for a few pints we started in the crystal palace (midland st) and had three pints then we crossed over to McSorleys my brother in law got the first then when I got up and went to the bar after about 5 mins I got served there was only another 4 people in the pub as it was only abou 4-30 and I was dying with the flu I asked for three pints and she barred me when my brother in law and his mate asked the reason she said I was drunk they told her i was ill (they've not been back since) but we walked out anyway the following week in the quo vadis I went to see them and their mates as I do every time im up and the staff knew me, but this was a sat night and they had 4 young staff working when I went to the bar they just stood huddled in a corner talking after a wee while when I thought they had finished I asked for a round and the girl that came over to serve me she was about 18 and pregnant said I was barred. When my company heard this they all got up and started complaining she said I swore at her and was abusive as luck would have it one of the company was standing behind me to give me a hand with the drinks so wittnessed this and called her a lier and she nearly had a heart attack when she realised who I was with as they have all been drinking there for years. Again I walked out in disgust, the next day my brother in law asked me to go back to the pub as the manageress had it on video and caught the girl on the whole episode I think Im a smart dresser and a very polite and pleasant person and more so with woman, so I cant explain this I have drank all my years and never had one problem is it just in glasgow? as in england your served with a smile from both young and old (any way I saved some money not getting those rounds lol) we laugh about! it now and I get kidded about it, but it really hurted my feelings at the time as I just couldnt get my head round it never again!

Submitted by: Not supplied
Not supplied
23/04/09
Email: Not supplied


We were yapping about all the pubs from Gorbals X to Cumberland St. My man reckons he can name them all. Should be good for a discussion. Here goes, McKellar's, Citizen,St. John's, Glenbervie, Granite. Then across the road, Mearns, Benny's, Doyle's, Princess, McPartlands.

Submitted by: Rose Doyle
Falcarragh Co. Donegal, Ireland
23/04/09
Email: rosedoyle1@hotmail.com


Does anyone know jean cullen wilson has a sister called martha wilson her son was killed buy her partner his name was joe docherty i think her son was named john and he would have been very young i think it was in the papers. I am trying to find it but cant could you plz help my email is clio.69@hotmail.co.uk thank you

Submitted by: Claire Wilson
Selkirk, Scotland
23/04/09
Email: clio.69@hotmail.co.uk


FAO: May sydney australia there was two pens in sandyfaulds st, the pen between sandyfaulds and moffat st was where the coal men stabled there horses. My pals uncle was charlie he had a club foot he looked after the horses we always went into see him when we came through the pen thats were the coal men stabled there clydesdale horses and parked there kerts the other pen was at the top of sandyfaulds st. I lived across the street the scrap and bricket men stabled there horses there the horses were smaller ones i worked for a coal man called tommy heron collecting the coal money people got on tick.

Submitted by: Bobby D
Sarnia, Canada
23/04/09
Email: anrdoc@cogeco.ca


FAO: Margaret Brown/Welwyn. So sorry about your husband Sammy, he was a very nice guy used to play with him in the spare ground in Nicholson street. He was a good footballer could have made it as a professional if he had put his head to it, just like i think it was his stepbrother or cousin? Billy Vandermotten. Anyway Margaret so sorry, glad to hear Johnny Eastons well bye for now. Take care

Submitted by: R.Murphy
Glasgow, Scotland
22/04/09
Email: Not supplied


I've been on this site and had a read through and its brilliant, I'm 55 and was born in Mathieson Street, I'm the oldest of 6 and my Da was Ronnie Cairney as far as I no his brother John run the Granite City Bar, there was a load of them Dan, George, Dougie, Patsy, Chrissie we left and went to Castlemilk Scarril Drive but we didnt last long and ended up back in the tenements in Bridgeton, We left Mathieson street when I was seven My Ma was Betty Mcdonald if anyone remembers them I would be happy to hear some stories, unfortunately they are both dead they were in there early sixties but I would be interested in any memories thanks a lot Liz

Submitted by: Liz
Glasgow, Scotland
22/04/09
Email: Not supplied


Just read Colin Macfarlane's The Real Gorbals Story..in it he goes on about getting the belt...a leather tawse - at schoool..i have got a pub argumnet about this going on...what year was the belt actually outlawed? and who banned it?..was it another regulation from Europe?

Submitted by: Johnny Boy
Glasgow, UK
22/04/09
Email: Not supplied


Hi Sandra, Angela here I can understand why you dont want to put your email on here as it does say you put your email on here at your own risk. Any way how are you keeping? I hope you are well. Do you have any family? are you working in Glasgow? I try and get up as often as work allows but that is usually about twice a year, as I have alot to keep me going at home. Between going out with friends, housework and studying. Look forward to hearing from you, take care all the best Angela

Submitted by: Angela Thompson
Eyemouth, Scottish Borders
21/04/09
Email: AngelaThompson123@googlemail.com


May, Sydney Australia, you mentioned your great grandfather was James Smith did he have a brother Robert, what was his occupation. Cheers Robert

Submitted by: Robert
Glasgow, Scotland
21/04/09
Email: Not supplied


Hi Angela. I'm 49 (an even bigger ouch!!). Married for 27 years and have one son who's 12. I work in Glasgow city centre in financial services and have done since I left school. I live in the southside of Glasgow.Sandra

Submitted by: Sandra Smith
Glasgow, Scotland
21/04/09
Email: Not supplied


Hi Anne Niehus - myself, Angela Thompson and Lynda Duffy are your cousins. I'm Billy's daughter. David got in touch with my Mum & Dad when he was in Scotland (they live in Middlesex). I'll e-mail you. Sandra

Submitted by: Sandra
Glasgow, Scotland
21/04/09
Email: Not supplied


When i used to drink in glesga i used to feel pretty safe. I went up to glesga last week to a pub at georges cross well i never, the youngsters had no manners at all and the staff would serve whoever they recognised first well. At least the old Waterloo bar never had that problem, we welcomed strangers. Sandra

Submitted by: Sandra
Brighton, England
21/04/09
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To R murphy, Re Sam Easton. Sam died 12 years ago from Cancer, he was a wonderful husband and father to our 4 children. He was always a Gorbals boy at heart and would be pleased to be remembered as such. John Easton is alive and well and lives locally.

Submitted by: Margaret Brown
Welwyn Garden City, England
21/04/09
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HI WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANYONE REMEMBERS THE McCAFFERTY FAMILY FROM OREGON STREET ROUGHLY ABOUT THE 1940S TILL EARLY 50S?

Submitted by: Linda
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19/04/09
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FAO Tom Philbin are you Thomas Philbin from Waddell Court my father. FAO Kim mc Laren Houston Renfrewshire If you are my fathers cousin what relation are you to me? FAO Christina Philbin am I related to you Please reply

Submitted by: N Philbin
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19/04/09
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I am looking for relatives of the late Joyce Rita Lamont born 27/11/1927 daughter of the late Pauline and Alexander Lamont originally from Dundee Scotland. Pauline and Alexander migrated to Australia before having children. They had two other children Fay Lamont and Robert Lamont (Deceased. I have a highland dancer and would like to form some connection with Scotland.

Submitted by: Kerry Benton
Mt Barker, South Australia
19/04/09
Email: kbenton@vtown.com.au


FAO: Sandra Smith and Angela Thompson. My name is Anne, I live in Australia and im pretty sure your both my cousins. I've recently found my Uncle Kenny in England, I am his older brother Tommys daughter, sadly my dad had passed, but im in contact with my uncle. Would love to hear from you both.

Submitted by: Anne Niehus
Corowa, Australia
17/04/09
Email: anne.niehus@yahoo.com.au


Does anyone remember the Robertson girls who used to live in Silver Fir Court - Jackie, Fiona, Pauline and Donna?

Submitted by: Chris
USA
17/04/09
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Hi,jim & linda fletcher(jimthe jannie),so glad I found this site. jim told my mum about this ,she worked with your mum susie at the natical college, shes told us some stories of what they got up too, you must miss her she sounded like some character! oh my the venny, we used to listen to the top twenty charts on a sunday night on the old wooden wireless, oh the memories

Submitted by: Margaret Fullerton
Glasgow, Scotland
17/04/09
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I seem to remember tram cars going along Rutherglen Road from Shawfield gates towards Gorbals. These were taken over in the ealy fifties??? by the 101 trolley bus (the silent Death) who left from beside the Jenny's burn. Re dixons Blazes. at the corner of Crown Street at Dixons Blazes there was the Unique Glazing Company. My dad John Ross, who lived in Wolseley Street, had a painters shop/store on the other side of Crown Street, and when he retired. Jack Seenan the undertaker took it over. Lastly I'm sure Frank McLintock from Arsenal and Elmfoot Street fame played with Rosebery Juniors.

Submitted by: Norrie Ross
Bellshill, Glasgow
17/04/09
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Hi Sandra thanks for the information i have had an email from uncle kenny giving me info on my dad and i have found out about my half sister and my step brother and sister. What about you do you have any family? I have two daughters aged 22&16. Im coming up for 47ouch hahaha need to go to bed as i have work in the morning on early shift start at 6am take care all the best Angela

Submitted by: Angela Thompson
Eyemouth, Scottish Borders
16/04/09
Email: Not Supplied


Hi Angela - don't really want to post my e-mail address on the site but if you want to leave yours I'll get in touch. I'm not in contact with Uncle Kenny. Sandra

Submitted by: Sandra Smith
Scotland
16/04/09
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Had to laugh at ten quid about his bit about me in Harlem aye it was a trip! any hoo the noo just want to say to all the fine people that dont think I ever got back to on this page.....Jack Duffy,nancy shanklin, charley elliott maggie margret lawson her niece and so many others. TQ he sent me a wee poem and I told him put it in the gorbals page I in my opinion thought it was good if the germs didnae kill yi the weight o them wool bathing suits could get yi drooned but what did we care life we thought was good did not need a lot to be happy. to the person who was asking about Helen Boyde fae Snowden st I knew the whole family and Peggy and oor Kathleen they were pals till Kathleen she left to go to usa. So tell her Doris sends her regards and Artie as well. I never really knew any one fae the old houses on Snowden St oh except for Billy Harrigon he used to nip us when we were feart of him he was kinda slow but fly as a fox I think me n Artie had to gie him a shove when we got a wee bit older like twelve he used to pick on oor Bertha. And ma maw would say noo dont be angry at Billy he is a wee bit saft in the heid ..... one more thing does any one know if dodgie gatons is still around he was from Florence st I think blonde curly herr used to hang oot wi him n a few others when we were still at bonnies. So again every one stay healthy happy, oh does any one know if John McCue ever wrote his story bet it would be a real good one and hope full he tells the real story in his opinion. All the best Doris made me laugh, but I see that there is another unhappy camper who does not like that we keep in touch through the gorbals page, I mean come on that is how we find each other wi oor stories n names we mention cannie jist say HEY ANY ONE KNOW ME without a tale. Noticed a few comments on Roseberry park I hope that we are not talking aboot the ducksie were we used to swim och among all the ca ca Mexican word for hmmmn bowel movements and whatever cannie print you know what. But it was good old days with nothing.

Submitted by: Doris McIntyre
Slo, USA
16/04/09
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Hi Christina I hope all is well with you as I haven't seen a posting from you for a few days. Anyways I'll just prattle on in the hope that you will see my meanderings and maybe give you a wee smile. We were on the subject of clothes and how we can sometimes relate to our past by special outfits/items of clothing. I have always loved clothes and up and till a few years ago could never afford to buy what I would really like to wear-I've now well made up for that and can hardly get into my bedroom for wardrobes full of clothes, most of which ah cannie fit intae but that is yet another story. I was never to proud to go to the brigait or the barras and get a second hand bargain, wash and press it carefully. I lied through my eye teeth that the much admired garment was purchased from an upmarket shop in town!! Then There was always the odd bargain that dropped off the back of a lorry and intae my wardrobe. Wheesht don't tell anyone....... And then the practice of buying the odd pawn ticket wasn't to be sneered at. That could get you you a suit or coat that you couldn't possibly have afforded to buy. There was though a special thrill too that you got when buying something you definitely couldn't afford from say the likes of Goldbergs. I remember a cracker of a biege tweed suit with a red fox fur collar,(ye widnae get away with dead animal hinging fae your neck these days!)Bought that suit on a charge account-went starving and couldnie pay any bills for weeks to pay for it after the 3 month period for payment came arround. But it wiz worth every missed dinner and the stress of hiding the cost from my husband. Felt like a toff every single time I wore it and the fur collar was taken off and put on at least three coats thereafter.The provi check was a bit easier to budget for-loved gawn doon tae Reeta's in the Gallowgate and trying on all the latest style. Worked there for a year or so back in the late 60's. hid tae gie it up as I spent all my wages on clothes. Topless dresses were all the rage one year and of course Rita's had its own version... bright red with a wee front panel that you could have on or off- this fastened on to the neck of the dress to save the blushes. One particular coat that comes to my mind whenever I think about Reeta's the shop and Reeta herself. I sold dozens and dozens of this particular coat which made me very, very popular with the owner. It was a dark chocolate swing back and foam backed affair with a boat neck, fake leopard skin collar. Suited any age, any size. There must be a few wummen out there that made best friends with this coat??? Could we maybe get a belated friends reunited chain organised? That's it for now, Christina. Love Rita

Submitted by: Rita Moffat
Glasgow, Scotland
16/04/09
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Hi does anyone out there remember the turnbulls of 32 portugal street? I lived at number 32 and went to st johns just across the street some of the teachers names were mr mcginley, miss wallace and miss murphy. Some of my neighbours were the smiths, mathers and the thomsons.

Submitted by: Jackie Turnbull
Chapelhall, Scotland
16/04/09
Email: jackie1933@hotmail.co.uk


FAO: KIM i remember that it was michelle little who was knocked down but she went to st lukes primary her brother william was in my class she had 2 older sisters janice and audrey and 2 older brothers william and peter. We lived just above the underpass at waddell crt just facing where the littles lived then a few years later mrs little had a wee baby girl named wendy.

Submitted by: Rosetta Connolly
Glasgow, Scotland
16/04/09
Email: xscotsbelle@aol.com


To all the scots living abroad if you havent heard of Susan Boyle go on youtube and put her name in its had over 12,000,000 hits and its not even a week she's been on Britains Got Talent, you'll be amazed and proud she might even be related to you tq lol

Submitted by: No Telling ye
Brighton, England
16/04/09
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FAO Mgt from Westfield, USA. Yes, I also remember the character from the Pend nicknamed 'Rubberneck' by all the kids. Adults knew him by that name also. So Mgt, for heaven's sake it was only a nickname!

Submitted by: J.J
Glasgow, Scotland
15/04/09
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FAO: K Warren - hi this is Sadie Gibson my sister sandra died 5yrs ago. Tell helen was asking for her. Hope she is doing well, great to remember all the old times we had. Sadie

Submitted by: Sadie Gibson
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15/04/09
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Anyone remember the McKay family who lived at 125 Thistle St from 1925 til they knocked it down? My mum and her sisters were all born there. My grandad's 2nd homes were the Blarney Stone, & the HorseShoe Bar. I miss them all so much. They had such a hard life but a sense of humour to die for!

Submitted by: Elaine
LA, USA
15/04/09
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Hi Lynda - Angela here nice to here from you on this site. Its been along time since I last saw you, I cant actually remember how old i was I think I was about 5 years old I hope you and your mum and dad are well. Hope to hear from you soon. Take care Angela

Submitted by: Angela Thompson
Eyemouth, Scottish Borders
14/04/09
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Hi Sandra - Angela here I would love to keep in touch with you I have some memories of you and of times at your mum & dads house. Do you have an Email address? if not do you still keep in touch with uncle Kenny? if so can you ask him to send me your address in his Email to me as I will be sending him one soon. Hope to here from you soon take care Angela.

Submitted by: Angela Thompson
Eyemouth, Scottish Borders
14/04/09
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Have started to trace my family tree, my father William Sinclair lived in Elmfoot Street with my Mother Margaret Sinclair nee Tainsh from 1932 they had two children Joseph and Harry who died at 7 months old. My father was born in Rutherglen road, i hope that anyone who knew them could help me with my family tree.

Submitted by: Les Sinclair
Glasgow, Scotland
14/04/09
Email: leslie.sinclair@ntlworld.com


Hi - looking for a Norma Johnstone, daughter of David and Marion Johnstone, nee Dobie. Norma married Robert Hamilton Stewart and had a daughter Angela in 1970. Anyone got any ideas please pass on my e-mail. Thanks, Eva. PS - re my last post on the murder of Agnes Young in 1929 - wrong place at the wrong time. Will be 80 years on 1st July this year so will be visiting 48 Gallowgate which is now McKinnon Bar but does anyone know by any previous names it was called. Thanks, Eva

Submitted by: Eva Gardiner
Sauchie, Scotland
14/04/09
Email: eva46@sky.com


Hi Angela (Thompson), Kenny Warren may have a lot more answers than me. As far a I can remember your Dad lived in London for nearly 40 years and that's where he passed away. He married Lynne. She had 2 children from a previous relationship (Anne & Robert) and her and Jim had a daughter Evelyn. I don't have any contact with them. Our cousin Lynda Duffy might also know more about them. Hope it helps.

Submitted by: Sandra Smith
Glasgow, Scotland
14/04/09
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Hi,Jim from London, you didn't give a surname so i'm sorry to say I can't place a Jim. Actually the Roberts' stayed across the road and round the corner in 6 Caledonia Rd they had a big sister called Julia, so we had Pretty Woman in the Gorbals before the Yanks cheers Nan

Submitted by: Nan Cameron
Glasgow, Scotland
14/04/09
Email: partickbelle@hotmail.co.uk


Hi Doris aye when you travelled through Harlem the gangs thru there weapons away screaming its a Gorbals lassi hide!! That was one hell of a long time U must have only been a wee lassi when you went there and done well for yourself. I done some work for the Glasgow Museum and enjoyed it Jay Teale (age 13) Doctor David Walker will contact you on this site with information you want you didn't leave an e-mail address or your address for him to send you the information for the school project got plenty of stories to tell, spiders, sharks, snakes and Dolphin just out of "hospitable" caught pneumonia never had the "oldmonia" 10 quid

Submitted by: 10 Quid
Oz
14/04/09
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DOES ANY ONE REMEMBER THE LEE FAMILY FROM THE GORBALS FROM 1940s to late 60s?

Submitted by: James Patterson
London, England
12/04/09
Email: j.patterson98@yahoo.co.uk


HI. DOES ANYONE REMEBER A DAVID STEVENSON? HE HAD BLONDE HAIR AND LIVED WITH HIS BROTHER AND MOTHER IN THE GORBALS. ACROSS FROM THE BALL ROOM DACING?

Submitted by: Eileen Duffy
Northern Ireland
10/04/09
Email: eileenduffy@hotmail.co.uk


Hi Val you were asking about the 'lane' that ran from Sandyfaulds St. through to Moffat St. It was actually a PEN and it was cobblestoned where the beautiful Clydesdale horses went through. I lived in Rutherglen Road between Sandyfaulds and Moffat Sts. and often ran through the pen when we were playing. I also went to Oatlands School when I was 11 in 1947. My teacher was Mr. Scott. When were you there?

Submitted by: Jean Fairie
Melbourne, Australia
10/04/09
Email: gorbals@aapt.net.au


FAO SANDRA GIBSON just thought i would let you know that helen lives in cumbernauld and i told her that you were asking for she remembers you and tina black i was a school mate of rob black we went to buchan st. school together

Submitted by: K Warren
Yorkshire
10/04/09
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I was born 1955 89 Gorbals street Gorbals Cross. would like to hear from anyone who new the family, my mother was Cissie and my father was George

Submitted by: George Greig
Manchester, England
09/04/09
Email: georgegreig1@googlemail.com


Hi folks, born and bred in the Oatlands, left about 1985, great memories of a good place to grow up in and of lots of great people. Went to Wee Bonnies and then Holyrood would be good to hear from anyone who remembers the old place.

Submitted by: Davy R
Blantyre, Scotland
09/04/09
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William Easdon your dad is my cousin.

Submitted by: James Neill
Darlington, Durham
09/04/09
Email: jimmyneill59@hotmail.co.uk


I lived at 69 surrey st 1959-63 please get in touch if you know me?

Submitted by: James Neill
Darlington, Durham
09/04/09
Email: jimmyneill59@hotmail.co.uk


Hi Val, yes I remember a man all we kids ccalled Rubberneck back in the 50's. How cruel we were. He had a very long neck and as you say he was very tall. I lived in Caledonia Rd (#269 & 275) and was just round the corner from Sandifaulds St. I remember the pen and believe my great grandfather (James Smith) used to stable his horses there at one time.

Submitted by: May
Sydney, Australia
09/04/09
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Hi Billy Espie, Roseberry Park was closed in the 90s, contaminated ground they said. There was talk of Glasgow Tigers using it for Speedway but at that time it was being used for Schools Football best park in Glasgow some folk said. It lay derilict for years and now that Oatlands is being regenerated, the M74 motorway has caused it to be flattened, Rosberry no more. Bye for now, norrie

Submitted by: Norrie McNamee
Glasgow, Scotland
09/04/09
Email: norman_mcnamee@hotmail.com


Re post from Billie Espie, if you go into google and type Roseberry Junior Football Park it will give you info. Shawfield Juniors played there, I played there in the late 50s for Holyrood School also worked on the dressing rooms in the early 60s when it was taken over by the Glasgow Corporation

Submitted by: Frank Ford
Whyalla Stuart, Australia
09/04/09
Email: FrankFordWHY@gmail.com


Hi love this site, it is full of history, does anybody remember the Traynor family,they lived in lawmoor street,my granda was called paddy,gran-mary,they had 7 kids,george,james,tommy,eddie,margret,mary,betty,granda was a bookies runner. the boys where infamous for fighting amongst themselves on a friday night. my mums family where called Donnelly they came from abbotsford place, shug,tim,patsy,cathy,ellen,mary,phyllis. my gran died young and my granda brought them up himself. my gran used to take in irish lodgers, any information would be greatly appreciated, thanks i am so proud to have gorbals blood flowing through my veins, i have heard so many stories about my mums life in the gorbals as a child, it makes me so proud of my ancestors. cheers lorraine

Submitted by: Lorraine Hamilton (nee Traynor)
Glasgow, Scotland
08/04/09
Email: hamilton297@btinternet.com


FAO ANGELA THOMSON. WELL ANGELA I HOPE THAT YOU WILL KEEP IN TOUCH A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO MEET YOU YOU WERE ONLY ABOUT TWO YEARS OLD WHEN I LAST SEEN YOU (JUST SOME,INFORMATION) YOU HAVE QUITE A NUMBER OF COUSINS SCATTERED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.

Submitted by: Kenny Warren
Yorkshire
08/04/09
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Val, from Surrey, England. Yes, there was a lane that joined Sandyfaulds Street and Moffat Street and, yes, there was a stable in the middle of the lane (Pend). The man who took care of the stable was named Charlie and not rubberneck. There were many, many children who grew up around the stable and never once did I, as a child who lived on Sandyfaulds Street with our kitchen window that looked into the stable, ever hear Charlie called this offensive name.

Submitted by: Margaret Burgdorf (McGettigan)
Westfield NJ, USA
08/04/09
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Info on the tragedy that happened at hayfield st, there was three children killed that day by the bus, alfred blacker age 5, what a TRAGEDY!!! ricki shannon, the wee girl tollan, they will always be remembered. alfred was my cousin, god bless them.

Submitted by: Margaret Fullerton
Glasgow, Scotland
08/04/09
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FAO Sahib, When I left Lizzy in 1981, Ann's Fry was the best. Was back last year, and it's still the best ha ha.

Submitted by: Rose Doyle
Donegal, Ireland
08/04/09
Email: rosedoyle1@hotmail.com


Sad to hear Owenie McElwee had passed away. He and my brother Billy were best pals.Hope they meet up there.

Submitted by: Jim Paterson
Leeds, England
08/04/09
Email: jpaterson@talktalk.net


To big mad Hastie..were you the teacher at Bonnies who was a real character? Also to the fellas that were asking about Gorbals Cross pubs and the Venny..it's all in Colin Macfarlane's excellent book... The Real Gorbals Story.

Submitted by: Johnny Boy
Glasgow, Scotland
08/04/09
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BOB KIDD The Flannagans stayed in Peebles street there were Twins Jack and Les, both knew Donnie, my brother Hadgy, and Joe both knew you we lived at the top end of Cumberland street. Did you remember John Clark? I do remember you, and Donnie, as I said I was never away from their house in the 60s be nice to find Donnie. regards Jim

Submitted by: Jim
London, England
08/04/09
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Hi Angela, I saw Kenny told you about your Dad. If you want to keep in touch let me know. Hope you are well. Sandra

Submitted by: Sandra Smith
Glasgow, Scotland
08/04/09
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For Stewart Davidson. 77 Main Street, Gorbals in 1885 until 1912 was occupied either part or whole by my great grandfather Dr James Cameron, who was a Dentist. Are you related to the Cameron's as I am trying to trace any decendents of Dr James - see earlier notice.

Submitted by: Heather
Northumberland, England
08/04/09
Email: johnson842@btinternet.com


Hi there. My name is David and I would like to help with the enquiry from Jay Teal regarding Dixon's Blazes and Alexander Street (Row). Ten Quid brought this to me attention. I work with Glasgow Museums on the M74 Project and I have a lot of information about the Lower English Buildings and Dixon's Blazes as well as Alexander Row. Much of this information has been given to me by people like Ten Quid who generously took the time to tell me about their past. So, Jay, if you would like some information then drop me an email (david@m74dig.org.uk) or come to Scotland Street School Museum and ask for me at the reception desk (your MUST bring a parent or guardian with you) and we will see how we can help you with your project. You can also visit the website of the dig at http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/projects/m74-completion/m74-dig/govan-iron-works Also if there is anyone else out there who can help with my project and who has information about Dixon's Blazes then do not hesitate to get in touch. Thank you.

Submitted by: David Walker
Glasgow, Scotland
08/04/09
Email: david@m74dig.org.uk


To R.Murphy: Archie Ianelli is my uncle I don't think he would give you information if it wasn't true about Sammy, we are hoping to go back home in Sept. this year, my uncle Archie is the funniest man alive, he has been over for visits with us, our "kids" absolutely adore him, also all the family at home. Best regards Anne

Submitted by: Anne Grimes (Expat)
Ontario, Canada
08/04/09
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Billie Espie - Roseberry Park was used by Shawfield Jr

Submitted by: 10 Quid
Oz
08/04/09
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FAO Jack 01/04/09 re pubs. there was two pubs facing the picture halls 1 at Cook st. the other at Wallace st. called Southern bar hope this helps.......

Submitted by: Bill
Toronto, Canada
08/04/09
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Hi Ten Quid, thanks for the reply to my post, what a way to live if your name was Boyle and i expect it still goes on. It must have been awful to find what you hoped would be the love of your life then find it was your cousin or someone. I think they have the same problem down here in England with the name Smith ha ha.

Submitted by: Tommy Boyle
Leicestershire, England
08/04/09
Email: tommyketchup123@hotmail.com


Hi ALBERT, this is yer big cousin here, well well who wud av thot u cud read n type (only jokin) how the devil ar u? hope u n wee betty r keepin well. Drap me a line, ma e mail is the bottum a this post, n gonna geis ur e mail eh gonna? wer r u drinkin noo? the gleswegian,let me no wen yer gonna b in, in al by anither drink, am 4yrs sober noo, bit like visitin the auld shoaps, thers no many pubs left n the sooside noo, a herd the pig n whistle shut doon, or rather the polis shut it, seems the boyz r drinkin in wee alexs shoap, the riverside tavern. hiv ye herd fae oor robert? katch ye albert. jim the jannie (james fletcher).

Submitted by: Jim the Jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
07/04/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


To Sandra Smith nee Warren - Angela here I have so many questions just dont know where to start. Was my dad Jim still living in Glasgow when he passed away? Did he ever remarry and have any more children? did he ever mention me? I have so many more questions going round in my head. I would be grateful if you can answer these questions from what you know, if you dont have the answers dont worry. Angela

Submitted by: Angela Thompson
Eyemouth, Scottish Borders
07/04/09
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Hi James Neil I am sorry I dont remember you but one of my brothers will. I will tell Freddy and James to get on the site. Andy Pender is also on and I do recall that name. One or both my brothers will get back to you James. Alice

Submitted by: Alice Buckley (Lyons)
Billingham, England
07/04/09
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HI ANGELA - I AM YOUR COUSIN LYNDA, UNCLE JIMS NIECE HUGHIES DAUGHTER. SORRY ABOUT YOUR DAD HE PASSED AWAY 26TH FEB 2009

Submitted by: Lynda
London, England
07/04/09
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HI ALL - DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE RAILWAY CLUB IN POLOCKSHAWS ROAD WERE YOU WENT ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON TO THE DANCING IN THE 1960's? IT WAS AT THE CORNER OF CAVENDISH ST CHURCH ACROSS THE ROAD ANN

Submitted by: Ann Ferguson (Nee McDonagh)
Glasgow, Scotland
07/04/09
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To the person from Dublin who e:mailed to ask about Owen McElwee senior passing away. Owen McElwee Senior Passed away in the Glasgow Victoria Infirmary on 23rd March 2009 at 7:20am his family where with him. Anyone wishing to know more about my father should contact me @ bigshetlandpony@hotmail.co.uk God bless Owen Og

Submitted by: Owen McElwee Jnr
Glasgow, Scotland
07/04/09
Email: bigshetlandpony@hotmail.co.uk


I always enjoyed visiting this site to read other people's reminiscences of the old Gorbals. I was brought up at Thistle St in the late 50s, early 60s, surrounded by brothers, sisters and uncles and aunties who all lived within s short walk from us. However, I have to say that recently this site seems to have become taken over by serial posters who apparantly use it as their personal chat room. This used to be a invaluable site for lost contacts and interesting stories from interesting people!

Submitted by: Dom Boyle
Glasgow, Scotland
07/04/09
Email: dominic.boyle@sky.com


I was born december 1962 in duke street hospital. Grew up in Ballater street. Went to Hayfield nursery and then St Francis Primary School. My cousins were the McAleavy's and the Philbins. If you were at school with me or my cousins then send me an email. We stayed Ballater street, Mcneil Street. Philbins stayed in waldock court, i think....I had a friend in primary school that didnt take the underpass and was knocked down crossing the main road. Can someone tell me her name. I think it was michelle!

Submitted by: Kim McLaren
Houston, Renfrewshire
07/04/09
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I lived at top of crown street opposite the dixon blazes site with my elder brother and parents,there was a second hand shop called jacks, and i went to camden street school still remember my so called auntie up the next close chucking me jeelie pieces out the window, great times hard for familys in these days but always happy loved hanging out the wjndae with my da at night watching them falling oot the pub i think it was the hi hi pub just down the road, never forget the memories.Thank for all your time the bryce family.

Submitted by: Vic Bryce
Northampton, England
06/04/09
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Hi Nan Cameron; I was born in 247 Thistle street, my Dad worked for big Lizzie Bailie, we lived in the first flat on the right side of the close, I used to be friends with the Johnsons, Terry and Billy, and maggie, the Obagies, the roberts lived accross the road from us, Frank had the green grocers next door and on the other side was the bookies, Big Mick was my Da do you remember us, we eventually moved to Cumberland street Jim

Submitted by: Jim
London, England
06/04/09
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Note From Webmaster

If an anecdote is deemed to be inoffensive it will be published regardless of the language used, spelling or grammar as we do not have the time to correct this. In future, we will not publish any submissions commenting on the way other users express themselves on the site. 03/04/09


Hi everyone. l'm searching for any living relatives of my mother Jean Lawson, mother Christina Knox Beveridge born 1919 died 1940, my mothers farther was Ian drylie lawson 1916 1950 mum has a sister edithe, they lived in kirkcaldy scotland. Any information would be great. thankyou jane

Submitted by: Jane Kneebone
Sunshine Coast, Austrailia
06/04/09
Email: hollyjane21@gmail.com


To Kenny Warren my mums name is Anne im sorry to here about my dad if i knew about this site earlier i would have posted a note. I would like to keep in touch i have kept a note of your EMAIL and i will send you one soon. Peter Thomson only stays about 10 mins away from me here in Eyemouth. All the best Angela

Submitted by: Angela Thompson
Eyemouth, Scottish Borders
05/04/09
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To Sandra Smith yes i am Angela

Submitted by: Angela Thompson
Eyemouth, Scottish Borders
06/04/09
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To Sandra Gibson im not one of your friends but i am Helen Warrens niece (Angela)

Submitted by: Angela Thompson
Eyemouth, Scottish Borders
06/04/09
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I was born in Surrey St in 1943 lived there until houses were knocked down went to St Johns then to Holyrood my cousin went to St Francis then to Holyrood. Knew the Mooneys, Ferries, Rankins Colberts, Neils and lots more also the boys who played football in the spare ground.

Submitted by: Gorbals born and bred
Glasgow, Scotland
05/04/09
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I need some info on Rosebery Park football ground situated in Oatlands. Did any club ever play there on a competitive level, and when was it demolished, and what stands on that exact location?

Submitted by: Billie Espie
Rutherglen, Glasgow
05/04/09
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Hi everyone. I'm doing a project on Dixon's Blazes, and can any 'old timer' tell me what and where were the Lower English buildings? Also, according to my information what exactly stood in Alexander St in Dixons Blazes estate? Housing?

Submitted by: Jay Teale (age 13)
Knightswood, Glasgow
05/04/09
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Researching my family history and trying to find what kind of property was at 77 Main Street, Gorbals in 1880/90s. Could possibly have been a bar or similar.

Submitted by: Stewart Davidson
Thirsk, North Yorkshire, England
05/04/09
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21:57 06/04/2009

I am gordon fullertons sister inlaw, i will tell him marie bilsland wants to get in touch. Marie i have nice wedding pictures of you, so glad I found this page, is Jim Feeney the one that stayed up caley road flats? My husband is Billy.

Submitted by: Margaret Fullerton (Kavanagh)
Toryglen, Scotland
04/04/09
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FAO: Margaret Welwyn are you talking about Johnny Easton and cousin Sammy Brown? Archie Ianelli told me that Sammy had Passed away is it true?

Submitted by: R. Murphy
Glasgow, Scotland
04/04/09
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Trying to find any information on my great grandfather Neil Sinclair a bricklayer who lived in Dyres Lane Gorbals, his father my great great grandfather Neil Sinclair was also a bricklayer and also lived in Dyres Lane. I beleive they had a business in South Wellington Street Gorbals.

Submitted by: Leslie Sinclair
Glasgow, Scotland
04/04/09
Email: leslie.sinclair@ntlworld.com


I'm originally from Caledonia Rd [52-67], & enjoy reading every anecdote, but most of my family were born or bred elsewhere. I know there is a similar Forum related to life in the old Bridgeton, but does anyone know of any other websites similar to our own Gorbals?

Submitted by: Anonymous
Glasgow, Scotland
04/04/09
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Yes Sahib Patel, I remember using your family's Indian takeaway shop in the Cumberland Arcade during the late 70's & early 80's before I was rehoused due to those infamous damp flats!! Lovely food indeed.

Submitted by: Tam Boyle
Glasgow, Scotland
04/04/09
Email: Tboy33@aol.com


I've asked in the past but surely someone must remember my Gran's (Jeanie Hastie) shop at 494 Rutherglen Road? It would have been around the 40's or 50's and sold sweets, amongst other things.

Submitted by: Terri
Glasgow, Scotland
04/04/09
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Hi caroline, photo has been emailed to you. Enjoy Bye for now, norrie

Submitted by: Norman Mcnamee
Glasgow, Scotland
04/04/09
Email: norman_mcnamee@hotmail.com


F.A.O: Shona im so sorry to hear about your Dad Jamie and Ian, i used to watch them playing every weekend Jamie was a terrific wee player. Take Care

Submitted by: Alan Young
Adelaide, Austrailia
03/04/09
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Have found a relation called Agnes Young who died in Glasgow in 1929, by a shooting in the head. Does anyone have any knowledge of this - I'm sure it will have made a newspaper but don't know where to look. Any thoughts? Eva

Submitted by: Eva Gardiner
Sauchie, Scotland
03/04/09
Email: eva46@sky.com


Can anyone out there remember a narrow lane with a stable which ran between Sandiefaulds St and Moffat St ? I used to cut through this pen on my way to Oatlands primary in Gilmour St. The man who worked at the Stables was very very tall and was nicknamed Rubberneck.

Submitted by: Val
surrey, England
03/04/09
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FAO sahid patel. I remember a patel from the 60s till around 1972. He wore a turban and had a moustache. I was a regular on the no27 at the time and if this was your dad all i can say is that he was a lovely, friendly guy who always had a smile on his face. Hope this helps

Submitted by: Mick M
Glasgow, Scotland
03/04/09
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Hi sandra nice to see that you r ok, saw ur mum at jims funeral.

Submitted by: kenny
Yorkshire, Scotland
03/04/09
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HI JIM FROM LONDON THE LAST TIME I SAW DONNY WAS BACK IN THE SEVENTIES WHILE WORKING WITH BR THE NAME JACK FLANAGAN RINGS A BELL. I DONT OWN A MOTOR BIKE I THINK YOU SAW ME ON ONE HELPING TO DELIVER THE LIST OF RUNNERS TO THE BOOKIES FOR THE PRINTERS IN PEEBLES STREET WE ALL USED TO GO TOTTIE HIKING FOR MAKINLAYS POTATOES AT THE FAR END OF PEEBLES STREET AND KILBARCHAN STREET, IF YOU LEAVE YOUR SECOND NAME MIGHT REMEMBER YOU REGARDS. BOB KIDD

Submitted by: BOB KIDD
BRISTOL, UK
03/04/09
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Tommy Boyle believe me when a guy went with a girl from the Gorbals and more than likely both names where Boyle as there really where lots of them, much investigation had to go on in case you committed a bit of nonsense with a kissing cousin 10 quid

Submitted by: 10 quid
OZ
03/04/09
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Searching for the Clelland family from Hutchesentown in Glasgow. My dad called James watson and his brothers and sisters were John, Owen, Nicol, Isabella, Mary, Mathew Brown and Alexander Garden. If anyone knows a clelland please could you e-mail me at jayneclelland@googlemail.com. I would love to know which school my dad attended and if he has any relations still living in Glasgow.

Submitted by: Jayne Clelland
Lincoln, Lincolnshire
03/04/09
Email: jayneclelland@googlemail.com


Hi everyone I have never lived in the gorbals but love reading your stories. I was born in Coatbridge but emigrated to Australia at the age of 11 in 1967. Keep up the good work. Sandra

Submitted by: Sandra Mason
Newcastle, Austrailia
03/04/09
Email: rma72608@bigpond.com.au


My father was from Gorbal district. He drove the No.27 bus from Shawfield. We lived at 13 Gorbals St. All 14 of us in singles-end. Hello to everyone who remembers us

Submitted by: Sahid Patel
Pollokshaws, Glasgow
02/04/09
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Still haven't heard from anyone who knew the camerons of 211 Thistle St. Before we stayed there we lived at 247 Thistle St. I remember from 247 the Quinns, Dochertys the Johnstones who had big Lizzie Baillie the bookie for an auntie and their other auntie Peggy Borland was my mother's best friend. Also up 247 were the Dyers, Cunninghams ,Murphys, Dixons, the Tinneys the Healys and the Mc Manamons. The names I remember from 211 are the Ferrys the McMenemys, Taylors, Gillies, bradleys,H affron, Hughes. That's all I remember for now if anyone would like to get in touch i'd be pleased to hear from you Cheers. Nan Cameron

Submitted by: Nan Cameron
Glasgow, Scotland
02/04/09
Email: partickbelle@hotmail.co.uk


BOB KIDD; You brought memories, the MacAskills were close friends, they originally came from Stornoway, I knew all the family, I was always up in the house in Egliton street, I think I know you as Donnie was friends with my brother, he used to work round in Peebles street, I think you knew Jack Flannigan as well, did you have a motorbike? I never saw much off them when they moved. Jim

Submitted by: Jim
London
02/04/09
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Hello Every One please keep T.Q . going with your ???? and banters. because I know he loves it and keeps his mind busy writing back with his opinion. He is really one tough human being, and honest by telling us in one of his stories how he loved to fight.... And some of us we cannie but help love him for all his stories and information.....And I for one hope he gets to finish his book that he is never going to write. just one of T.Q his sayings....We all know I think of his tough battle with the cancer, but what a man, and his Glasweigin sense of humour, which I know a lot of you do not get the gist of it. But T.Q you still have a lot of your own stories still to tell., so keep them coming and would love to start reading of how you and your wife lived in Aussie land, must have been tough, just the same as a lot of us. i hope that you have them tucked away some were. Might even make a good topic to read what a lot of us oldies but still goldies funny memories when we left Scotland Strangers in a vast land. It was so big New York, through Harlem, never saw so many people of all colours and then through the Lincoln Tunnel, over the Hudson River to Kearny New Jersey Oct 1959 ready to take on the World just thought I would share that. DAM

Submitted by: Doris McIntyre
SLO, USA
02/04/09
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Does anyone remember my mother, JOAN JACKSON, born 1932 in Mathieson Street? She may also have lived in Salisbury Street and Victoria Street? She was evacuated in the war, and returned to Glasgow at sixteen to discover that her mother, EMMA PHELPS (born 1899) had died in 1945. Any memories of either of these would be greatly appreciated by my mother, now in her seventies. Thank you, and the site is brilliant.

Submitted by: Kristine Underdown
London, England
02/04/09
Email: me@krissyunderdown.co.uk


Whats all this about best meat pies or fish with chips? Best Biryani and Bombay Curry was my fathers takeaway in Cumberland Arcade early 80's. Vindaloo is now your national British dish!

Submitted by: Sahib Patel
Pollokshields, Glasgow
01/04/09
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Whilst on the subject of Gorbals pubs, I can remember sitting with my late father [sipping lemonade], in a bar in Eglinton Street perhaps opposite the two Picture Halls. Just can't remember the name! I'm sure it had little wooden dividers with seating for 4 in each space!!

Submitted by: Jack
Bishopton, Scotland
01/04/09
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Wonder if anyone remembers anyone from 69 Surrey Street Just came across this and I have enjoyed reading the stories. Remember some of the people mentioned, especially the Neils

Submitted by: Gorbals Oldie
Glasgow, Scotland
01/04/09
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Is there any of my league winning side of St. Bonaventure's team of 1970-71. I gave you all a chance to make your name in junior football. C'mon! Lets be hearing from you!

Submitted by: Big Mad Hastie
Eastwood Toll, Renfrewshire
01/04/09
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Has anyone got any relatives still alive who would remember maggie barclay, she was born in 1917 and lived at 175 caledonia road. she would love to hear from you. she's now 91. She had a sister nellie, and brothers norman and robert.

Submitted by: S. Butcher
Wolverhampton, England
01/04/09
Email: sandrabutcher@hotmail.com


FAO scottish borders. I had a friend helen warren stayed in nicolson st we went to adelphi school with annie alum, tina black, emma cocolough, we are all now 60s if this is my old pal give her my best. sadie gibson

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01/04/09
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FAO: sanny yes sandra was a great sister always laughing nothing bothered her she is sadly missed thanks for your memories of her .sadie

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01/04/09
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Re: rita moffat, hi were u a pal of my mum tessy martin, i helped that polish chap in his lock up with his cars.

Submitted by: Brian Martin
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01/04/09
Email: brianmartin26@fsmail.net


Re: jeanie, the devils tree, my nams david kesson i was born in the gorbals in 1970, went to blackfriars primary, left when i was 8, and moved to toryglen,i still have family who live in the gorbals, i also lived in the oatlands, from 93 to 97, then moved back to toryglen, just to say i know of the devils tree it gave me the willies, hahahahahahaaaa

Submitted by: DK
Gorbals, Glasgow
01/04/09
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I attended St. Bonaventures before it was demolished in 1971. Anyone remember an eccentric music teacher by the name of Miss Daley?

Submitted by: Will Gilroy
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01/04/09
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Lived at 277 Crown Street from around 1952-55; as far as I know my dad John Cairney was a bus driver at the time. My grandfather owned what I believe was called the Rainbow Cafe & ice-cream shop (on Crown Street between Cumberland Street and Hutcheson Boys School); his name was Sebastiano Pacini but I seem to remember him being called 'Ricky'. All I remember from those days is the raspberry macallums in cute curly coloured dishes; and getting the belt on my very first day at St Luke's! I'd love to hear from anyone who might have known my dad or granpa; or who has any information about the cafe.

Submitted by: Loretta Cairney
Glasgow, Scotland
31/03/09
Email: quad.ms@ntlworld.com


I don't often reply but I came from Braehead Street in the 60's and I also remember Vic's bakery in Polmadie Rd near Rutherglen Rd. And it wisnae just the pies that tasted good! Dear Old Oatlands. Gone but Never Forgotten. R.I.P.

Submitted by: Bootsy
Glasgow, Scotland
31/03/09
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FAO : Alby Marshall. How are you ya big drunken Gorbals B-nose? Glad to read you're alive, kicking, and still drinking in the Glaswegian bar. Aye. Many good times we had in Crown Street or Bridge Street. Look after yerself, and don't be shy to leave a message on the website.

Submitted by: Sam McFadden
Renfrew, Scotland
31/03/09
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Re Mary MCGowan clyde valley stompers talking to my sister in glasgow she was telling me Mary lives on Crookston Rd Glasgow Mary and my brother sang together for Betty MCLennen dance school on Lawmoor st they sang (THe crooked Ba BIe )his name is James Spencer hope this helps

Submitted by: Maureen McGowan
Glasgow, Scotland
31/03/09
Email: maureen5hay@yahoo.com


Hi Norrie, Debbie here I sent you an email if you received it ok, you can give me an email bk please thanks

Submitted by: Debbie
Cambuslang
31/03/09
Email: dooley_68@hotmail.co.uk


Re:Owen McElwee passing away, Could someone confirm if this is owen whc lived in Basil Spence Flats and then next to St Francis and who drove a taxi. Sorry to hear this.

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Dublin, Ireland
31/03/09
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To Jean Fairie. Sorry but don't remember any Cairns Bakery, but can remember a good dairy that also sold hot/cold pies opposite St. Francis Chapel in Cumberland St during early 60's. I still think Vic's Bakery in Polmadie Rd, Oatlands, took a bit of a beating!

Submitted by: Billy
East Kilbride, Scotland
31/03/09
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Gorbals boy: rakt middens,climbt drainpipes,goat hudgies oan the bak eh lorries,played pitch n toss,played gories ringy aimy n stanky,played in puddles,etched ma name in the taur oan the pavement,played chases, wan man hunt, chap door run fast, kiss kick or torture,kick the can. bilt dens wae old doors,bilt a dooket fer tae flee the doos,played fitba n the street,jumpt dykes,climbt n ran across brokin gless cementit oan waws,drept oota 3 storey windies,jumpt affa the boxy roof et johnsons bakers(cop yer wack fer the wee bit a latin (et))dun amilk run wae scottih farmers,went messages fer everybody oan the street,dun a bagwash run ,n apaper run,helpt tony the stik man tae chop up bits a wid n sell thame roon the hooses fruppence a bunch,helpt ma das uncle james dunlop wae the coal hoarses best brasst up n the sooside,played moashie,went tae skool wellies nae soaks, nae drawers,holes in ma vest(naw it wis a string wan)baw under the erm snotters trippin mae,played ootside ! tae aboot wan in the moarnin,ma auld man tot me how tae bild the fire, paper, stix n coal,kennel it up,take oot the ashes,heat up the big heavy iron oan the gas ring,n press ma troosers n ma shirt,take peece n jam tae skool,AYE MUNDY WIS A BIZZY DAY, jim the jannie.

Submitted by: Jim the Jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
31/03/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


FAO - Albert Marshall. Crivens ma boab! Is that really you Alfie aka Alby? I ran about with you in the Govanhill area 1972-74, and sometimes we'd wander into Laurieston after walking back from Ibrox. I used to see you drinking in the Devon St Orange Halls, and then in the Glaswegian Bar. Hope life's been good to ye! Drove through the Gorbals last year, and it looked so different from the early 70's. Good luck big man!

Submitted by: Big Norrie
Paisley, Scotland
31/03/09
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FAO: Henry Young did you live in Cavendish st and if so is your brother called William Does anyone remember the Morrisons of Crown st I am also interested in the Adelphi Reunion Thanx again for a great site

Submitted by: Isabella Henriques
Rotherham, England
31/03/09
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Norrie, looking for picture or info on the new era bar rutherglen road belive it was on the corner of gorbals st think somewhere near dixon blazes, my mums name was cathie kelly, her brother dick and sister ann, her mum was also cathie and her father was tommy,they left after my granpa had a stroke and came back to cumnock

Submitted by: Libby
Cumnock, Scotland
31/03/09
Email: libcatclaws@msn.com


To Val Yes I do remember the laundrette and the big Polish man-always cheery. Put some gie strong chemicals intae the bagwash as they called it then. Bleached colours very pale and sheets and towels never lasted long as the washing soda(?) rotted the fabric. Was a godsend though in the days without a washing machine for stained clothing!!

Submitted by: Rita Moffat
Glasgow, Scotland
31/03/09
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I have been sitting here reading all your posts and can remember ppl and places your on about then think is that person i know,.my memories not to good, but i stopped reading wen i thought i was getting to all the gang and trouble part of the forum so no doubt i missed post that may been good for me to see, i remember bennys bar and one across rd wee derry trainor had it next citizen theatre i used to drink in there on my way home from ibrox as i lived in crown st didnt know it was celtic bar till i went in sober one day benny bar used to have piono at back lounge. As for catholics not getting work most ppl we met wer irish catholics and were never out work for long i loved growing up in gorbals full great ppl always get a laugh. just sorry that im no good at remembering ppl or could help few ppl out with stories. i still live in gorbals and drink in glaswegian as my father did.

Submitted by: Albert Marshall
Glasgow, UK
31/03/09
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Life is funny if it wasn’t so sore! thinking back many years ago when I was only a kid and a member of the Boy Scouts one of my past times after scout Meetings was to catch Hudgies my favourite one was the L.M.S railway truck that travelled along here there and everywhere the L.M.S truck was slow making it easy for kids of eight or nine to catch and hang onto its low back tray with its 2inch square steel sides just right for a brave Cub Scout like me to grasp onto. my cub cap like everything else was a bit too big hiding my beady eyes as I ran helter-skelter after the truck when it came to a very sudden halt at the then Crown Street and Cumberland Street intersection and I also came to a sudden halt as my head crashed into the rear end of the side rail on the three Wheeler giving me a lump the size of a tennis ball and a black-eye to match! as I pulled my Cap Over the lump and staggered on my way passed the trucks cabin determined not to cry, the driver took it upon him! self to leap out and give me another lump on the tailbone of my backside! The funny side was for the people watching this little boy rubbing his forehead with his right hand and the fingers of his left hand pressing right up his rectum to console his tailbone it felt so bad as if the men in the illegal two up schools in the back yards had used me as the pennies HEADS OR TAILS Life is funny if it wasn’t so sore! ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
31/03/09
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Hello, can any one help. I have been trying to trace my husband's family history and would like to know if there are any decendants, who will be able to fill in gaps in our knowledge. Dr James Cameron a dentist practicing in Main Street, Gorbals from 1870 until his death in 1912. He had seven children from his first marriage, three of which I know had family and I would like to trace members of these families. They are: James Cameron married Christina Mcruer and they had one child name Ethel (1895). Charles Cameron married Susan Wood and had two children, Susan (1890) and Veronica(1898). Donald married Helen Knight Dick and had a son, James (1897) and his 2nd wife Elizabeth Taylor and had a daughter Helen (1900). Christina M Cameron married Thomas Hogg Wilson, but I do not know if she had any children before she died in 1907. We would love to hear from anyone who might have information on the family. Thanks, Heather

Submitted by: Heather Johnson
Northumberland, England
31/03/09
Email: johnson842@btinternet.com


FAO: AT - SCOTTISH BORDERS. BILLY AND JENNY, NOW LIVE IN LONDON, YOUR AUNTIE HELEN LIVES IN CUMBERNAULD, YOUR UNCLE HUGHIE STILL LIVES IN GLASGOW. IF YOU'RE WHO I THINK YOU R YOU WERE YOUNGER THAN 6 WHEN I LAST SEEN YOU.

Submitted by: K Warren
Yorkshire
31/03/09
Email: kwarren750@googlemail.com


Hi Billy from East Kilbride. I lived in Rutherglen Road as well between Moffat and Sandyfaulds St and we thought the best pie and peas with vinegar was the ones we got from Cairns bakery in Rutherglen Road up from Hamilton's Dairy Did you know that bakery or dairy?

Submitted by: Jean Fairie
Melbourne, Australia
31/03/09
Email: gorbals@aapt.net.au


Tell a good story and nobody wants to know whoever tells it gets abuse if they tell the tale like it really was but mention a pub and everybody wants to get their two pennies worth does it not say something about the Gorbals people I will have a half wee Betty

Submitted by: Wee Betty
South China
31/03/09
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Sorry AT - just remembered -is it Angela?

Submitted by: Sandra Smith (nee Warren)
Glasgow, Scotland
30/03/09
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Hi AT, saw your note of 26/3/09. Are you Anne? I'm sure we're cousins - I'm Billy Warren's eldest daughter. I came to stay with you and your Mum a couple of times before you moved away? One of my memories of staying at yours was you didn't have a TV - funny what you remember!! Happy to try and answer any questions you have.

Submitted by: Sandra Smith (nee Warren)
Glasgow, Scotland
30/03/09
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FAO: RITA JUST THINKING YOU MIGHT KNOW AN OLD FLAME OF MINE CAME FROM NEAR YOU. HER NAME WAS ANN CORBERT JUST WONDERING . THANKS

Submitted by: Jim
Morristown, USA
30/03/09
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FAO Christina printed out your posting gave it to Bert he said that the shop with the ribbons was called Toffs there was a Toffs in Cumberland St. owned by Jewish people. The Southside is getting disrupted with the new motorway that will be running through it. Cathcart Rd. coming in from the town just by were Dixon Blazes was has now bends in the road right up to Aitkenhead Rd. amazing what engineers can think of. The new motorway is starting where the Kingston bridge near Cook St. and it is going up Eglington St. someway and they have built hugh pillars on Devon St/McKinlay St. When they were digging up the grounds at Devon St./McKinlay St they came accross old ruins don't know if it had been a village years ago but architects came from all over to see it but it was covered up. Don't know who was to blame for covering it. Amelia x

Submitted by: Amelia McKinlay (nee Welsh)
Glasgow, Scotland
30/03/09
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com


F.A.O MELVIN, jim the jannie here, i apologise to you personally melvin fer upsettin u,ah didnae mean tae upset anybody oan this site. rite here we go, ah wis broat up readin the sunday post,the broons,n,oor wullie,wen a wis awee boy, a wis always told by the big peeple, ah wis here tae be seen, n no herd, as u speak fer most peeple oan this site, ahll, let u n thame no, that am no feart anymair, as fer the queen, a luv that wummin, espeshly oan bits apaper,w ae the numbers 5,10,20,50 n,100 pouds oan thame, queens english melvin, ma famly fought against gettin that language introduced. rob roy mc gregor, ma famly made the arras fer his clan, (fletchers) if ye go oan tae u tube type in paliamo glesga by stanley baxter he kin explain it better than a kin. ye see melvin a kin laff at masel. a dont take ma life too seriously, if ma language wis inappropriate am quite sure THE WEBMASTER widnae huv published it. fer 50yrs melvin ah dukt n dived, wantin peeple tae like me, ye see am a an alcoholic in recovery (4yrs a day at a time) i dont mind disclosin this but i respect everybody elses anonimity, ah left adelphi skool at 14yrs auld in 1969, wae nuffin nae qualifications at aw (ma spellin is ma best subjekt) since then in the last 4yrs i have graduated at james watt college in greenock. COSCA counselling skills, no quite a bit aboot karl marx, carl rogers, johari etc. aw dun in the queens english a keep that loked away n a talk the wie a rite, ma choice, if ma posts upset u n urs, pleeze skip thame, n reed yer ain ur choice. really lookin forward tae yer reply melvin, thanx, may god be with you, jim the jannie (james fletcher)

Submitted by: Jim the Jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
30/03/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


Hi all i found this site by mistake and what a mistake its fantastic, i wonder if anyone knows anything about my grandad john docherty and his wife mary they lived at 64 gorbals st right on gorbals cross they had 3 girls mary ellen and margaret i beleive my gran died giving birth to margaret in about 1920/21, ellen was my mum and she married charles mc naught we lived at either 157 or 257 nicholson st for a short time and reading the stories and tales about the gorbals reminded me just how much fun we used to have there, there was a lady that lived in abbotford place i think her name was miss or mrs grey she took a lot of kids to her house were she would let us do things like sewing, reading, play games. she helped a lot of families in the gorbals also in the summer time she helped give a lot of kids holidays i remember going to stay with a family in weemsbay for a week if thats how you spell it and a group of us going to rothsey i think it was called a residential ! school the girls were on the street level and to get to the boys end you had to climb up the steep pathway i wonder how many of you gorbalites can remember this? now back to the family searching my mums sister mary married bobby bouge and they lived at 54 gorbals st for many years, my aunt margaret i dont know much about her as she moved to london she had 1 daughter named margaret last i heard about her she was living in the isle of dogs in london i would be very grateful if anyone has any of these memories in the gorbals or any memories of my family kind regards to all helen

Submitted by: Helen
Merseyside, England
30/03/09
Email: helen.morrison1@blueyonder.co.uk


Would anyone happen to know the name of the crisp factory and the name of the person who owned it,it sat on the corner of south portland street? shona

Submitted by: Shona
Glasgow, Scotland
30/03/09
Email: shonzi@hotmail.co.uk


F.A.O ALAN YOUNG OF ADELAIDE, jamie macdonald is my dad and ian is his brother, my uncle sadly both of them have past away. My dad died 25/07/2005 and ian died 22/07/2007.

Submitted by: Shona
Glasgow, Scotland
30/03/09
Email: shonzi@hotmail.co.uk


FAO (AT) In the scottish borders what is your mothers first name.I am sorry to have to tell you jim passed away a few weeks ago let me know if you want to stay in contact?

Submitted by: Kenny Warren
Yorkshire
30/03/09
Email: kwarren750@googlemail.com


FAO Val who asked about the laundrette on Lawmoor Street. My mum, Greta Bradley worked in the laundrette which was right next door to our close on 291 Lawmoor Street. Stan is the name of the Polish guy that owned it. I remember vividly going in there when I was a wee lassie and smelling the bleach. It was in big bottles with straw wrapped around them. I hated that smell. My Auntie Bridget Kinnear worked there as well. I remember Stan being a big guy, but then everyone was big to me at that time. We left Lawmoor Street in 1959 and went to live in Corby.

Submitted by: Margaret Bradley
Sacramento, USA
30/03/09
Email: maggies@onemain.com


ah lived at 2 Snowden st wan o the Austin family we wur lowdoon an oor wee room windae looked right doon the cuddy brae ower the watter o the Clyde ti the Glesga green. Oh an mister Bernstien , it disnae maiter whit we decide ti print and if ye cannie read it then you didnea speak like a gorbolite all in good faith ur ye wan o them toffs that talked like ye hif jowries in yir mooth. I am sure it is done just for a laugh and a lot of us did talk like that, I dont know why it is a problem for you I thought that you had a better sense of humor than that. So dont bother geing me any mere o yur delightful kisses and lighten up. so have a great week DAM

Submitted by: Doris McIntyre
Slo, USA
30/03/09
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Looking recently at an old map of the Southside, and I noticed Gorbals & Oatlands had a total of 15 schools in the early 50's. Now that was a lot of kids to teach!!! Talk about a shrinking population.

Submitted by: Old Timer
Glasgow, Scotland
30/03/09
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F.A.O. Jim the Jannie, don't you dare change the way you write honey, i for one enjoy reading your stuff the way it is written. Melvin doesn't speak for me, i speak for me, so Melvin honey awanbileyerheid!

Submitted by: LilJo
Glasgow, Scotland
30/03/09
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RIP Owen McElwee another true gentleman of the gorbals.

Submitted by: Not Supplied
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30/03/09
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Looking for any knowledge of Mary Crawford born 1815 aprox in Pollockshaws? married William Leckie 1839 and went to Wellington NZ on Bengal Merchant died as result of birth complications 22nd May 1841 Petone Wellington NZ her death notice said she was late of Pollokshaws, would appreciate any help as I am her great great great Granddaughter.

Submitted by: Barbara Dobson
Lumsden, New Zealand
27/03/09
Email: dobsonsdairy@woosh.co.nz


I came from Rutherglen Road, Oatlands, and my favourite schoolboy memory was when returning home from Adelphi Secondary, stopping off at Vics Bakery in Polmadie Road for a pie & peas. Best home made pies in all of the Southside!

Submitted by: Billy
East Kilbride, Scotland
26/03/09
Email: WillsF2277@hotmail.com


Hi just found your site love it.lived in the Gorbals.from 1949 on. like to ask Ten Quid bid he live in 2 Snowden St I lived in 3 Snowdon St with my sisters do i Know you? have been reading your comments.

Submitted by: John Cunningham
Aberdeen, Scotland
26/03/09
Email: weegieboy1@btinternt.com


I was brought up at 257 Lawmoor St in the 50's. I remember the local Laundrette which was run by a large jovial Polish man. My friends son told me he's sure the same Man opened smaller premises in Calder St, Govanhill during the 60's. Just wondered if anyone remembers the Lawmoor Street Laundrette or indeed, the Polish man?

Submitted by: Val
Surrey, England
26/03/09
Email: Not Supplied


FAO; Jim the Jannie; I am sure I speak on behalf of most folk on this site when I ask you, what language is that you write? Its untranslateable. We stamped this out before, please Jim nice clear English so we can all understand your letters and perhaps even enjoy them. Do not be afraid to write the Queens English we Scots invented it! Melvin Bernstein

Submitted by: Melvin Bernstein
Glasgow, Scotland
26/03/09
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Dear Bob Kidd, im not sure if we had any family who lived were you asked, my grandads name was Alexzandra Biggam he was married to Elizabeth they had nine children Alek,Archy,Jackie David who is my dad, Mary, ina, Betty, geenie, Isobell, we moved in the seventies. I will ask family if they know anything and let you know. Thank you Liz Biggam

Submitted by: Liz Biggam
Aylesbury, England
26/03/09
Email: lizbiggam@aol.com


Reply to the post from Alan Young Adelaide12/03/09, great post Jamie McDonald stayed in Bridge st. Dennis Gunn played for St. Bonaventures, Wardy with St. John's and myself also, the sprare ground was a great place as was the Colly Brae, I've been in Whyalla since 1966. thanks Frank Ford

Submitted by: Frank Ford
Whyalla Stuart, Australia
26/03/09
Email: FrankFordWHY@gmail.com


Hello all - can anybody tell me a good recipe for tottie scones and if it's true that they taste better fried in pigs fat Margaret?

Submitted by: Margaret
Glasgow, Scotland
26/03/09
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A note to the following people Owen Dougan, Lynda Duffy, Annie Martin, George Porgey and Pappy Doc you all mentioned the Warren Family from Nicholson st(162). I am one of their nieces my dad was called James he has another two brothers that i have been told about one is called Kenny and the other William/Billy who married a woman called Jenny and they lived in Cumbernauld they had two or three children not to sure as i last saw them when i was about six years old. Would like some more information if possible but dont worry if there is none. Im just curious about my past

Submitted by: AT
Scottish Borders
26/03/09
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Joe McLean: 42 years is a long time to be away. You should go home, just to see the changes for yourself. Some are good, some are bad, some are in the process of getting done, nothing stays the same. What happened to you growing up was sad, but you are not a kid anymore and this is another life time. Go home for a visit, you will be glad you did. The area may have changed, but the Glasgow folk will welcome you home again. M

Submitted by: Marion
Canada
26/03/09
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Can anyone tell me where i can get pictures of around Eglinton Lane around the mid 40s and South Portland St around the late 30s please. I have tried several sites but cant find anything.

Submitted by: Tommy Boyle
Leicestershire, England
25/03/09
Email: tommyketchup123@hotmail.com


Margaret Smith Hudson, i was pals with a jeana smith from thistle street who had a sister margaret you were the older of the two.me and jeana went to adelphi together. I met her a few months ago in the gorbals it was great seeing her again hope you are well i also remember a ian hudson from hospital street any relation. Remember going up to ypur house often your ma and da were nice people take care myra

Submitted by: Myra
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
25/03/09
Email: myrajigy1@aol.com


Does anybody remember my mum and dad jean & terry hart or edward hart has 2 names would have 3 (i think) kids at the time helen,ann-marie,edward. Edward and ann-marie are twins if that helps.

Submitted by: John Hart
Irvine, Scotland
25/03/09
Email: john.hart74@yahoo.co.uk


F.A.O Jim the Jannie. You wouldn't happen to know what became Of Joe Gallagher or his family? I went to school with his son Danny, nice big fella. If I remember right he was our school team goalie. Cheers, Gerry

Submitted by: Gerry
U.S.A
25/03/09
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Hello Lorraine I remember the Traynorsfrom Lawmoor st, I was a friend of Eddies.

Submitted by: Robert Brierley
Brisbane, Australia
25/03/09
Email: bobandsally@optusnet.com


FAO: Billy Bhoy, I can remember the tragic bus accident that you speak about,only im sure it was young Ricky Shannon,he was in my class at St Lukes primary school, im pretty sure he came to st lukes when I was in my last year at primary seven. I can remember a big spread in one of the newspapers at the time although I cant remember where he came from before comming to st lukes, and I think he had an older brother called tam. Hope this helps, cheers the noo, stevie

Submitted by: Stephen Mullan
Falkirk, Scotland
25/03/09
Email: csmullan@aol.com


Hi im looking for my dads family the mclaffertys there is a margaret, david and thomas. David and margaret should be in ther late 50's by now and my dad thomas should be around 46 cheers.

Submitted by: kayleigh ann mclafferty
St Andrews, Fife
25/03/09
Email: beany-mcbean@hotmail.com


I remember Benny's Bar. It was as you say at Gorbals Cross on the side nearest to the Clyde and on the opposite side from the Ballater St end (the Oxford St side). Hard to describe as Gorbals Cross was more like a circle with the toilet and I think a crock in the middle.

Submitted by: Norrie Ross
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24/03/09
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How refreshing to read about Joseph Hughes and his bravery 63 years ago which won him a medal. And why? Well, he was a Gorbals man, born and bred. Let's hear more about Gorbals men or woman who deserve a mention, not the bigots or morons.

Submitted by: Jay
Glasgow, Scotland
24/03/09
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Christina Thanks for your answer to my last posting...As usual with your wonderful memory for detail you stimulated thoughts of the wee Jewish ladies shop. One of them was extra kind and used to give me the more expensive ribbon I invariably chose for the same price as the cheaper quality ones. Or maybe she was just fed up with me swithering, chopping and changing my mind about the colour pattern and the endless question of " if I take x amount of inches of this one how much does that come to ?" I think I drove her nuts constantly counting my pennies to see if it met the cost of what I would have realy, realy liked. Carrying on with the theme of "all our yesterdays" via clothes. I had three aunties, (Nancy, Peggie and Nettie) who did not have any weans of their own so I think I was a wee bit better off than most for clothes, at least when I was little and cute. Prezzie's kinda faded away a bit when I got older and went through various phases of uncuteness eg Beatnik,bohemian etc etc. Anyway!back to clothes.. loved my wee dress stewart kilt, red blazer edged with white petersham ribbon and a snazy royal blue shoulder bag. This was the outfit I wore when I went down to London on the Flying Scotsman to visit my Auntie Nettie and see the Coronation. Next outfit that sticks out in my mind was a black long skirt, black polo necked jumper and a rehearsed "ye cannie tell me a thing" look on my face. You know the kind of look that comes with being fourteen and a convinced I know it all already attitude!The outfit was hidden in my schoolbag and I swapped my John Street Secondary School Gym slip, ! school tie and blouse up the last close by the diary at the bottom of McNeil Street. I would then hobble as fast as I could in a long tight skirt all the way over James Bridge into Tullis Street and into school to be met with the scathing look of teachers. This was in my last few months of school but was still considered very daring for a fiteen year old. And ah tell ye whit- Britney Speirs could have learnt a thing or two from me! Then another landmark............ the time my mother won a sweepstake and bought her first new outfit for donkeys years. Pride of this was an emerald green, poddle wool sack dress from C&A's with a big bow at the bum -just couldnie sit doon in comfort. But that added to the scowling look of a fifteen year old, so it kinda fitted. I digress again, I just had to "borrow" said sack dress for a BIG important occaision. Ach I'm blethering too much I'll save the rest of the story till next time........... Take care Christina, love from Rita.

Submitted by: Rita Moffat
Glasgow, Scotland
24/03/09
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FAO Norrie, The Thomson school of dancing, was in Cumberland St. facing the Renick church, and next to Cumberland Lane. Wee Blether.

Submitted by: Wee Blether
Scotland
24/03/09
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FAO MR S GOLDMAN nice to know that you tell your children about the Gorbals and to keep the memory alive. The old Gorbals is long gone, but never forgotten, we only have to think back to that time and it comes alive again. Yes they demolished our old buildings, but they can never demolish our memory's and yes we were poor but we never knew we were poor, because we were all the same, all our houses were identical, so we had nothing to compare, as long as we were fed, watered, and loved then we were happy. Then in the early 60s things began to change, get better??? We were told by those in authority that we were all going to be rehoused, live in A clean healthy enviornment, have space, A bathroom and above all A better life. Well that's were it all went so wrong. We went to areas we didn't know, had to make new friend's the kids had to go to A new school, there were no shops, or pubs, life was A shambles, basicaly we were betrayed). But we stuck it out! because we had no choice, they tore down our old buildings, shops and schools, and with it went the heart, the sole, and the spirit of our old Gorbals. So Mr S Goldman, keep showing your children photo's and pictures of our old friend, because it's the only way to keep it alive. The children who live there now, will never know that old place, because they are different kids living in A different time, another planet??? Gorbals Old Lassie.

Submitted by: Gorbals Old Lassie
Glasgow, Scotland
24/03/09
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Looking for friends donald and helen macaskill formely stayed mannering road pollokshaws, donald used to stay eglinton street. regards bob kidd

Submitted by: bob kidd
Bristol, England
24/03/09
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To tim malloy, yes there was a bar called bennys bar at the cross.

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24/03/09
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Can anyone please explain to me how a small area like the Gorbals had and still has so many Boyle families living in it yet none claim to be related to each other! I am working on my family tree and although the name is so common in the Gorbals, i am finding its like looking for a needle in a haystack. My dad originates from the Gorbals...From a very big family of Boyles and Kilkies yet they have all vanished according to this site, both families! somebody must have memories of know someone by one of the names, any help would be very very appreciated.

Submitted by: Tommy Boyle
Leicestershire, England
24/03/09
Email: tommyketchup123@hotmail.com


Trying to get in touch with linda johnstone who married gordon fullerton and went to live in australia, she has been back a few times but was never able to get in touch with me for whatever reason. We went to st lukes then holyrood.

Submitted by: Marie Bilsland
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
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Hi Jayar, the Blarney Stone pub was on the corner of Thistle st and Caledonia rd. Send me your email address and I can send a couple of photos of it. Bye for now, norrie

Submitted by: norman mcnamee
Rutherglen, Glasgow
23/03/09
Email: norman_mcnamee@hotmail.com


Hi timmaloy, I can confirm that Bennys Bar did exist at Gorbals Cross. Send me your email address and I can send a photo of it. Bye for now, norrie

Submitted by: norman mcnamee
Rutherglen, Glasgow
23/03/09
Email: norman_mcnamee@hotmail.com


Hi I would love to know if anyone knows a friend I had, she stayed in cavendish st she had a lot of sisters I think her name was shevlin. We were best friends and I know she moved away after she got married i think she moved to Africa she was always helping people and I would love to know how she is. She came from such a lovley family her father and her mother were very good and honest people as was all the family. Wish I had a family like them so where ever you are patsy I would love to hear from you. I was adopted by very nice people and maybe that is where this is coming from, they were good to me my adoptive parents. I have since found out that I am not irish even though I thought all my life I was. what I am I am !!! I would like my friend patsy to please contact me

Submitted by: Pauline B
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
Email: pauline boyce@ntlworld.com


Looking for relatives of mary mcgowan clyde valley stompers.

Submitted by: Maureen McGowan
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
Email: maureen5hay@yahoo.com


Reply to Billy Bhoy, I can remember Ricky Shannon being killed by a bus in 1971,he wen to school with us to St lukes primary, on Ballater St Gorbals, he had an older brother Tam, Cheers Stevie Mullan.

Submitted by: Stephen Mullan
Falkirk, Scotland
23/03/09
Email: csmullan@aol.com


Hi, Tim Malloy. My uncle Joe ran the Glenties Celtic Supp. Bus from Bennies Bar for years. Mick..

Submitted by: Mick Gallagher
Toronto, Canada
23/03/09
Email: dumpingram@hotmail.com


As far as I know bennys bar was at gorbals cross.

Submitted by: Ann
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
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There was a pub at Gorbals Cross called Bennys Bar, they use to run the Celtic bus from there.

Submitted by: Tom Philbin
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23/03/09
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The hi hi bar was in crown st.

Submitted by: Anne Hannon/mcknight
London, England
23/03/09
Email: annehannon@btinternet.com


Thanks for the response i got last time i was on here! what a crackin site tis is :). though would still like to know if anyone knew my mum elizabeth ward who went to st francise primary 1957- or my gran helen ward (nee) who stayed in the q e flats. storys and pictures would b great.

Submitted by: Suzie
Gorbals, Glasgow
23/03/09
Email: littlessnu21@hotmail.com


FAO Billy bhoy i was there the day that accident happened we used to get the bus at moffat st to school in cragie st oppisite the police station as bonnys was getting pulled down an john bosco getting built on same site it was wee rosemary toland who got dragged under the wheels and ricky shannon tryed to save her but got dragged under as well this happened after school as we got back to moffat st tragic god bless them both xxx

Submitted by: Rosetta Connolly
Scotland
23/03/09
Email: xscotsbelle@aol.com


Hi, my Grandfather owned the pub at Gorbals Cross (McKellar's Pub) Does anyone have any pics of this? I would love to have them as I have no record, but very fond memories.Thankyou

Submitted by: Caroline
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
Email: c.mcfarlan@ntlworld.com


FAO Norrie McNamee The Thompsons School of Dancing was at the lefthand side of Cumberland St.by Abbotsford place going towards Eglington St

Submitted by: amelia mckinlay nee welsh
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com


Just love reading the anecdotes from the old Gorbals area. This is my 1st posting. I attended Buchan St school before the War, and the janitor often hid his empty bottles of beer in every nook & cranny, even in the girls toilets!!! I came from Inverkip St and had several friends from St. Ninians St. It saddens me to see my childhood area change so much. It brings a tear to my eye

Submitted by: Mrs C.K
Glasgow G42
23/03/09
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The paragon yes that was the place a piano player and the pictures tom mix tex ritter and a drink of water aff old wullie the torch man.

Submitted by: Edward Friel
Veiwpark, Scotland
23/03/09
Email: eddyfriel@hotmail.com


I live in Toronto, Canada. I moved here from the Gorbals in 1967. I left Scotland because of a very abusive childhood. Iam 64 yrs old and have never been back because of the horrible memories I was scared to re-live. I just went on a website showing the Gorbals. I lived with my grandmother at 99 Gorbals St. I couldn't believe what the website showed. It looks completely different. I have tears in my eyes just looking at what the area looks like now. I lived right at Gorbals cross. I'm just sending this e-mail because my heart has never left the Gorbals or Glasgow or My Scotland. I just wanted to say hello to anyone out there. I miss my City and Homeland so very, very much. God Bless all of you out there that reads this. Best Regards Joe.

Submitted by: Joe McLean
Toronto, Canada
23/03/08
Email: mcleanj@metro.ca


My late mum ina cassidy my late dad tam gillies of naburn st. mam had 3 sisters may peggy lizzie dad had a brother baldy we lived over from the pawn mam came from camden st

Submitted by: Margaret Graham Gillies
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
Email: magsmay44@hotmail.com


F.A.O tim malloy, BENNYS BAR wis oan the coarner nofolk st,they used tae run a celtic bus fae ther n the guy thit ranit wis the wan n only JOE GALLAGHER ,wit a guy wit a bus, it wis always a double decker, n it wis always brekkin doon, a used tae go oan the GARRYOWEN,bus wen a wis a wee guy,gon tae aberdeen, dundee, embra ur anywer, ye jist seen this big plume a smoke up ahead, n evrybody, oan oor bus wid say in unison thers bennys bus,wed stoap n pik up sum a ther punters n take them tae the gemme,even wen a used tae go tae the celtic rallies, n the mungo halls, or the kelvin hall, the celtic players n staff, wid kid big joe oan aboot hiz bus travls,aye tim bennys bar wiz ndeed at gorbals x. memerys ta THE JANNIE.

Submitted by: Jim the Jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


F.A.O re the dodds famly, duffy, barnes, n norman fiddle, aye a remember thame, ian dodds hid windae boxes on his ledges wee blu hooses,certinly lookt diffrent, harry barnes endit up wurkin as a caretaker alangside ma da doon at waddell court flats, mrs duffy wisit her dauter that got hut wie the chimney stak,wen litenin hut 248 nicholson st,n the chimny fell doon n kilt her?norman fiddle wit a name,a remembr him noo (thanx) cannae remembr too much, did they hiv any weans i.e wee fiddlers!!!only kiddin,ye see a wis broat up at that time, tae be seen n no herd,respect the auld yins, yes sir no sir stuff,it wis ok, bit a jist wish a cud ask aboot things a didny understaun,ma maw n da hiv passed oan a few years noo, n av nae aulder members a famly let tae ask anythin aboot.this geis me the operchancity, tae ask aboot things,like who um urr, wer umm urr, n wer av a been wer umm a gaun, sum other famlys that stied up oor close 248, wur mrrs roarty, ah kin still remember the smell waftin doon! the sters, she made her ain breed n buns, n wid gie sum if ye went fur messages, ah wis goan tae her door aboot 5 ur 6 tmes a day fur a peece or a bun,ther wis also the mitchells, boyz wur davie n ian (a think)thair auld man wurkt as a slaughter man,n the meat market,h e used tae drap aff lumps a liver tae oor hoose(tasty!!!)ther wis also the sweeneys who steid low doon in the close,that wummin gave me ma first drink, brandy, wen a wis aboot 6yr auld,wit happend wis, a wis sittin oan the kerb wae ma pals,n we wer dain eenie meenie mannie mo,tae see who wis gon het fer tig,a hid this wee roon metal thing in ma gub(goat it oot a lucky bag, wae a magnet)n a wis tae go het a gulpt, n the thing stuk n ma froat,ma pals chapt mrs sweeneys door,she came oot n startit batterin intae ma bak(ded sore)n a faintit,a goat carrit intae her hoose, she flung this gless a brandy doon it, a frew up, n the wee roon thing flue oot, nae borra,jist went bak oot tae play(still het). so thanx name no supplied fer the namz, gonny tell uz yer name, eh pleez gonny. thanx THE JANNIE

Submitted by: Jim the Jannie
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
Email: jimthe@btinternet.com


FAO: tim malloy, bennys bar was indeed one of the many bars at the gorbals cross,my cousen drank in it for many years. we are talking about the 1940/60s

Submitted by: owen Dougan
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


FAO: jay r, the blarney stone was situated in caladonia road, just close to cumberland street. I drank in it 1980/83. now long gone.

Submitted by: owen Dougan
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


FAO of Norman McNamee. The Thomson School of Dancing was in Cumberland St. It later became The Cuthbert School of Dancing.

Submitted by: Josie MacDonald
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
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Great stories going on,To M,C Namee the dance hall was in Cumberland st I used to go there up the stairs, next door to wee bakery, an accross from the Church, To Sanny fae Brighton, did you used to live in Surrey st, and drink in the Waterloo bar? I remember you were an Arsenal supporter. Jack

Submitted by: Jack Haliday
Glasgow, Scotland
23/03/09
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Regarding the questions about the pubs the Hi-Hi was on Crown St opposite Kidston St, the Blarney stone was at the corner of Thistle St and Caledonia Rd it was also known as Seilsys after the last name of the owner "SEILS" and lastly Benny's Bar was at Gorbals Cross hope this helps. Jimmy G

Submitted by: Jimmy Gallacher
Sarnia Ont, Canada
23/03/09
Email: jgallacher@andersonwebb.com


To Norrie Macnamee, the Thompson School of Dancing, was located at the top of Cumberland St. in between Abottsford Place & Eglinton St. As a wee Gorbals girl, I used to dream about going there but I think you needed lots of money to attend it.

Submitted by: Anne (ex pat)
Whitby, Canada
23/03/09
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Still looking for lassies by name then patsy mccann, winnie curran, rosemary douglas and bessie barrie luv anne

Submitted by: Anne O'Neill
Ontario, Canada
23/03/09
Email: anne.brannan44@hotmail.com


Joseph Hughes - George Cross
23rd March, 2009 is the 63rd Anniversary of the death of Private Joseph Hughes, R.A.S.C. A Gorbals resident and only nineteen years old, Joseph Hughes was stationed at Lymun Barracks in Hong Kong where he was involved in clearing the aftermath of the war, including landmines. He was driving a 3 ton vehicle carrying ammunition and explosives into the magazine area at the Barracks. As the vehicle was entering the storage area, it started to smoulder and caught fire.Knowing full well that his truck could explode at any moment, Joseph did everything in his power to put out the fire, firstly by trying to remove the burning camouflage netting, then by using fire extinguishers. Unfortunately the truck blew up and two days later Joseph died of his injuries.

Joseph was subsequently awarded the George Cross for gallantry and is remembered by those in his regiment and the Hong Kong holiday village which is now situated where Lymun barracks used to be. Here in Glasgow and the Gorbals in particular few have heard of Joseph and his heroism. A plaque containing a replica of the George Cross medal awarded to Joseph Hughes, and a brief summary of his bravery (including photograph) is now hanging inside the entrance (to the right) of the St. Francis Centre, 405 Cumberland Street in the Gorbals area of Glasgow. It is fitting that this should be in the area where Joseph was born and will be a place that people can pay their respects to a brave young soldier who gave his life for so many others. This was made possible by the efforts to have him remembered by Joseph' cousin Irene Finn and with the help of Glasgow City Councillor James Mutter (HUTCHESONTOWN WARD 66) and Mr George Donnachie of the RASC/RCT Association. The following poem was written by Elsa Beattie in memory of a brave young soldier.

JOSEPH HUGHES – GEORGE CROSS
- FOR A HERO WAS HE -

Joseph Hughes gave his life for his Service Corps ‘Brothers’ his the ultimate price to save so many others.
Just a lad from the Gorbals how proud we should be of that brave young soldier for a hero was he.
His fear and his pain we can only surmise how he must have suffered in his sacrifice.
With esteem his name spoken as it always will be by his comrades-in-arms of the RASC.
In death then young Joseph his actions rewarded for his gallantry a George Cross awarded.
His body lies cold far away, in the earth but let’s bring his soul home to the place of his birth.
Each act of remembrance brings Joseph back home to the land of his fathers his spirit will come.
So let’s always remember with a thought, or a prayer Joseph Hughes from the Gorbals and his courage so rare.
© ELSA J BEATTIE

Submitted by: Elsa Beattie
Glasgow, scotland
23/03/09
Email: beattie01@btopenworld.com


Picking up my search for some family and stories of my family THE SLOWEY'S

Submitted by: Rena Pittenger
Virginia, USA
19/03/09
Email: renapitt@comcast.net


This is for Billy Malcom, The bookies was Willie Kings, yes Dennis was my nephew, can vaguely remember a young boy with black hair which must have been you, thanks for your comments Billy. I am a Shaws man now that I have moved, its not the same as the old days is it Malki

Submitted by: Auld Malki
Glasgow, Scotland
19/03/09
Email: Not Supplied


Does anyone remember the tragic bus accident around 1971-72 when young Pat Shannon died under the wheels of a school bus. I think the bus was ferrying secondary pupils from Gorbals to a tempory school in Battlefield.

Submitted by: Billy Bhoy
Glasgow, Scotland
19/03/09
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Does anyone remember my late mother, Eileen Millar (Miller)? She came from Londonderry with her mother (Joyce) and younger sister (Ethel) possibly in the late 1930's. They may have stayed in Portugal Street and/or Crown Street. I think my mother worked in Bilsland's bakery after she left Adelphi school (possibly around 1939/40 but not sure of dates)

Submitted by: Joyce Chalmers
Perth, Australia
19/03/09
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I've noticed/read several anecdotes regarding long gone Gorbals pubs. I can remember my grandmother talking fondly of the Blarney Stone. Was this pub in Camden Street?

Submitted by: Jay R
Isle of Arran, Scotland
18/03/09
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Does anybody remember margaret smith from thistle street and my husband william hudson from hospital street about the sixties

Submitted by: Margaret Smith Hudson
Glasgow, Scotland
18/03/09
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Hi Christina Philbin, Thanks for the details re Karrie Braggs site for the Crossans Hellraisers on google, it was very interesting but sad to see that Rose had died in her early fifties. Have you read the Bad News Shrews by Karrie. My mum is moving back into her own house this week and keeping a bit better, hope you are well yourself and will speak to you soon.

Submitted by: Sandra
East Kilbride, Scotland
18/03/09
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To Bill Toronto; Sorry Bill cant remember first names but can remember their faces even now , two well built stocky lads with rosy cheeks, both had light brown hair, I am sure someone on this site will know them. H Young

Submitted by: H Young
Glasgow, Scotland
17/03/09
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Can any of you tell me where the New Era Pub was located? Hope you can help. Bye for now, norrie

Submitted by: Norman McNamee
Glasgow, Scotland
16/03/09
Email: norman_mcnamee@hotmail.com


Can any of you remember Thomsons School of dancing, I need to know what street it was on. Bye for now, norrie

Submitted by: Norman McNamee
Glasgow, Scotland
16/03/09
Email: norman_mcnamee@hotmail.com


Can anyone help settle this friendly arguement at work. In the early 70's I briefly drank in a pub at Gorbals Cross called Benny's Bar. My work colleague insists no such pub name existed! I'm sure I'm correct. Can anyone confirm?

Submitted by: Tim Malloy
Cadder, Scotland
16/03/09
Email: Not Supplied


Thank You Mr.Bernstein. I vaguely remember my upbringing in the old Gorbals, having lived at several addresses in and around Eglinton/Bedford streets, and attending Abbotsford school, but at no time do I remember any hostility towards my jewish family or anyone else's family due to religion. Life was tough, but I hold the old Gorbals with great affection. I enjoy nothing more than showing my grandchildren their family history from the Gorbals and trying to find the exact area's of my childhood where I grew up!! The old Gorbals? The people were the salt of the earth! Can we say the same now?

Submitted by: Mr S Goldman
Glasgow, Scotland
16/03/09
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FAO Auld Biddy Thanks for your post and cheers! FAO Tam Craig Thanks for your comments and you answered your own question correctly. I know some people personally who have never recovered from violenct acts inflicted on them and that's what compelled me to write about my experience. The fact is the majority of the people hated the violence. Those who inflicted it and their wee sheep followers were and are in the minority. Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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16/03/09
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FAO the jannie remember the Dodd family Duffy and Barns and Norman Fiddle

Submitted by: Not Supplied
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16/03/09
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Robert Brierly, Are you same Bob Brierly of KILWINNING fame.? if so would like to know how you are all doing up in the Paradise State. Jim Fyfe

Submitted by: J Fyfe
Adelaide, Australia
16/03/09
Email: jfyfe@austarnet.com.au


To adelphi54g@talktalk.net would be interested to know details of reunion

Submitted by: myrajigy1@aol.com
Glasgow, Scotland
15/03/09
Email: myrajigy1@aol.com


Re the recent request for location of the Hi Hi Bar in Gorbals. I seem to recall as a youngster it was situated in Crown Street near Caledonia Road. But I may be wrong.

Submitted by: Jay Jay
Dumfries, Scotland
15/03/09
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Great stories last week Pat Mooney Doris McIntyre Rita Moffat Etc.&Mick was No.2 the close next to the phone box?The close before Snowden St.I knew Peter McInnes and the Toner family both low down the Mission Hall was at the corner of Wolseley St.and Logan St. We lived above it when the landmine brought down all the ceilings and windows dont remember the one in Roseberry St.but when I went to see Oatlands before it was completely demolished and there was a big hut there standing all on its own which I think belonged to band of hope.Rita I remember the white buckskin boots and the white sannies out of the window to dry I remember the shop with the ribbons it sold nearly everything I cant remember the name of the shop but it was run by 2 jewish ladies one was called Lilly they always opened on a Sunday my mother used to buy white collars and studs for my fathers shirts he too worked for Glasgow Corporation and had a clean shirt every day not big wages but a safe job come! to think of it I think everyone up our close was working except one family lived next to Bert they were "different" we were lucky we had a nice clean close everyone took their turn at doing the stairs.Rita do you remember the cooperage work facing our windows not sure but remember something about McCanns maybe Amelia could find out from Bert. I used to go up to a shop in Rutherglen Road called Melroses for snuff for an old woman that lived same landing as us.I remember all the different styles coming back kept saying to my daughter I used to have a dress like that do you remember the nylons with the seams and the shaped heels.

Submitted by: Christina Philbin
London, England
15/03/09
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Hi debbie, I dont have any history of the Wee Mill but I do have a photo if you are interested. Email me if you want it. Bye for now, norrie

Submitted by: Norman McNamee
Rutherglen, Scotland
15/03/09
Email: norman_mcnamee@hotmail.com


To May from Sydney AU.The Street that ran off of Cumberland Street to the market was Commercial lane ,which I think eventually ran onto Camden Street,behind the Rose Garden and ancient burial ground. The Paragon Cinema was close to St.Francis Church and used to be a Synagogue at one time,I hope this helps. Cheers, Jim Doc

Submitted by: Jim Doc
Vancouver, Canada
14/03/09
Email: Balclutha2@hotmail.com


Hi im trying to find my dad thomas mclafferty just wondering if anyone knew him or can help me find him. if it helps my mums name is carol hamill.

Submitted by: Kayleigh Ann McLafferty
Fife, Scotland
14/03/09
Email: beany-mcbean@hotmail.com


My dad used to lodge with a family called Forsyth who had a son kenneth not sure where in Glasgow they stayed but if anyone can help please contact .my dad was called Davie Williamson might have been known as Taffy.we lived in a small Aberdeenshire village. here's hoping

Submitted by: W Keith
Peterhead, Scotland
14/03/09
Email: win.jim@tiscali.co.uk


Thank You for complimentary remarks Melvin Bernstein regarding recent threads from people claiming the old Gorbals was full of bigotry!! Your own input is itself most interesting, and its just refreshing to read of genuine anecdotes of the Gorbals from local people with no axe to grind. I often walked up and down Abbotsford Place when I courted a girl from there in the early 50's!! How times change.

Submitted by: Gorbals Oldie
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14/03/09
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Does anyone remember where the adventure playground 'The Vennie' was, I vaguely remember it was near Abbotsford Place,it was 35-40 years ago I played there, so I am not sure,, Hope someone recalls it .. A.F.G

Submitted by: A.F.G
London, UK
13/03/09
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FAO Christina Philbin - Came across the Gorbals website tonight. Just wanted to know if this is my aunty chrissy. My mum's maiden name is Philbin sister I think to your husband James Philbin. A message from Amelia McKinley re the sad loss of your husband made me write this to you. Can you confirm if uncle James is alive or dead as we have not had any news regarding this. Kim

Submitted by: Kim McLaren
Houston, Renfrewshire
13/03/09
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fao Sadie Gibson Im sorry to hear about Sandra in fact Im really gutted Sandra was a lovley lassie always bubbly and cheerfull I was one of the boys that used to hang about the corner (chip shop)Im really stuck for words to say to you Sadie Im just gutted sanny

Submitted by: Sanny
Brighton, England
13/03/09
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Reading through the notes about the gorbals, brings but some memories. I remember the moffats staying up the road. I stayed at 38 Mcneil Street. Reading through notes and i noticed CHRISSY PHILBIN comments, COULD ANYONE INFORM ME IF MY BROTHER JAMES PHILBIN HAS PASSED AWAY?? As just noticed it on here, i am very shocked if its true! please get in touch! Thanks

Submitted by: Helen McLaren (nee Philbin)
Erskine, Renfrewshire
13/03/09
Email: ash.stevenson16@btinternet.com


Any info on a Janet Anderson nee Janet Singleton Gibson,b 1928 Ayr,died abt 1978 Glasgow,also 2 older brothers Bobby b abt 1926 (lived in Glasgow) and John (moved to Sussex after WW2) sadly all died in their early 50`s all died about 1977 2 1979

Submitted by: Sharon Redmond
Wexford, S.Ireland
13/03/09
Email: charmelle174@gmail.com


May in Sydney. Yes the Paragon Cinema was on the right hand side of Cumberland St. after turning in from Sandyfaulds st. and was next to St. Francis Chapel. The market you want to know about was in Errol St. or Lane. My mammy went there to pick up what she could for us children. I have a picture of the cinema and chapel if you want me to send it to you.

Submitted by: Jean Fairie
Melbourne, Australia
13/03/09
Email: gorbals@aapt.net.au


FAO: Lynda Duffy, the Warren family from the gorbals that I knew,lived across the street from me in the 1940/60s.in nicholson street. the boys were hughie, tommy and I think there was one younger, the girls were, betty, margaret, and helen. sorry but ive no idea were they all are now; owen dougan

Submitted by: Owen Dougan
Glasgow, Scotland
13/03/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


Happy St. Patrick's Day to all those good people who came from the Gorbals no matter their heritage.

Submitted by: Margaret Burgdorf (McGettigan)
Westfield NJ, USA
13/03/09
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I remember in the late 1950s watching street football teams in the Gorbals,playing in Coburg Lane at the back of the Coliseum picture hall.There was some terrific young players,i can remember some of their names there was John(holly)Mulholland Jim McGraw Ian McDonald Jamie McDonald Jackie Murray Jackie Dobbie Pie Dobbie Gebbie Ward Denis Gunn Frankie Ford Jimmy Foley.I wonder if any your regulars remember any of them,and are they all doing well.

Submitted by: Alan Young
Adelaide, Australia
12/03/09br> Email: Not Supplied


Dear liz biggam aylesbury just wondering did you have relations who came from vine street,partick my grandad was robert biggam, if not i apologise for any inconvience,regards,bob kidd.

Submitted by: Bob Kidd
Bristol, UK
12/03/09br> Email: Not Supplied


Hi, i am just wondering if anyone can remember my grandfather Robert Kenney? He had 4 borthers and was friends with billy bisland?

Submitted by: JMC
Glasgow, Scotland
12/03/09
Email: jacquelinegcns@yahoo.com


Hello can anyone living at the present time in partick or maryhill glasgow give me any information regarding my mother elizabeth coyle born in november 1924 at 10 brook st glasgow in the calton district. i was born in nicholson st gorbals glasgow in 1953, my mother and sister kathleen coyle are both alive and well today somewhere in partick or very close by could anyone with real information e-mail me please asap thanks.

Submitted by: Peter Coyle
Edinburgh, Scotland
12/03/09
Email: petcoy1963@yahoo.co.uk


Wee Bleather; I knew Mag Clark, her brother John was my best mate, I lived round the corner in Egliton street, John was a great guy. I am sure Johnny Ramenski lived in the same street. Leishy

Submitted by: Leishy
Perth, Scotland
12/03/09
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FAO Stephan Mullan - No sorry Stephan did not know your mother Tily Mullan my schoolfriend lived in Mathieson St.passed Cumberland Street and Ropers Pub No I dont have a son called James.

Submitted by: Christina Philbin
London, England
11/03/09
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Just love reading the anecdotes from the old Gorbals area. This is my 1st posting. I attended Buchan St school before the War, and the janitor often hid his empty bottles of beer in every nook & cranny, even in the girls toilets!!! I came from Inverkip St and had several friends from St. Ninians St. It saddens me to see my childhood area change so much. It brings a tear to my eye

Submitted by: Mrs C.K
Glasgow G42
23/03/09
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Harry Young, I remember a Henry Young that played on the spare ground, yes I remember all the names you mentioned especially Budgie, his real name was Ronnie Parrot he lived in Egliton street there were some great players in those days. Auld Malki, I used to go to Jacks for the bookies a few doors away to get take away dinners,for them, I used to drop a line for you and you would always give me a couple of bob at the end of the week, you were related to Dennis Fraser, a mate of mine, you were always smartly dressed good luck Billy

Submitted by: Billy Malcom
Easterhouse
11/03/09
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I have a 1941 photo of St Johns Portugal St pimary school I'ts two classes together. The teachers were a miss Mc Dermott & Higgins [not in photo]. don't suppose there will be many around but if interested get in touch

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Glasgow
11/03/09
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Was the Paragon cinema in Cumberland St just up from Sandifaulds St? Also, as you turned into Cumberland St from Sandifaulds St, I remember there was a lane on the right hand side which led to a market. Can anyone remember this? Do you rmeember the name of the lane or the markets? This would have been in the early to late 50's.

Submitted by: May
Sydney
11/03/09
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To harry young 3/3/09 you mention the campbell bros. playing fitba in Cavendish st.what were wheir first names......

Submitted by: Bill
Toronto Canada
11/03/09
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My sister Elizabeth {Betty}Clark nee Brierley died 31/12/2008.Born 179 Lawmmor st,grew up 46 Lawmoor st Married 310 Lawmoor St and Ardmory Ave Toryglen

Submitted by: Robert Brierley
Brisbane Australia
11/03/09
Email: bobandsally@optusnet.com.au


hello can anyone give me some information on the wee mill in oatlands when it opened and when it closed someone must have memories of the wee mill.My family drank there for years as we stayed in oatlands but sadly they have all passed away.any information would be wonderfull

Submitted by: Debbie
Glasgow
10/03/09
Email: dooley_68@hotmail.co.uk


Answer maureen hay regarding relatives of mary mc gowan who sang with the clyde valley stompers i think i may have went to school with maureen

Submitted by: Mark McGowan
Lanark
10/03/09
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Hi wee bob, I may be able to help you with a photo if the Hi Hi. I will need your email address. Send me an email. Bye for now, norrie

Submitted by: norman mcnamee
Rutherglen
10/03/09
Email: norman_mcnamee@hotmail.com


Hi Everyone, Just wondering if anyone remembers my dad not sure where in the Gorbals he was from, will find out next time i see him.....But he always went on about the high rise flats....would be good to hear any stories or info if anyone remembers him.. His name is Terry Ryan, and had brothers called Dennis, John, Kenny and a sister called Esther, his parents were Flora and Dennis. Would be good to find any info out thanks

Submitted by: Mark
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09/03/09
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This is for Mary Shankland wishing you a Happy Birthday 14 March from you Pal Irene Dumbreck dont know how to reach you mabe if nancy or your other sisters are on the net they can let me know where you are...Thinking of coming home for a holiday in July sometime love to hear from you your pal Irene

Submitted by: irene dumbreck
Ontario
09/03/09
Email: scotch_lassie@hotmail.com


The Walker family thank & appreciate all the support & sympathy from the Gorbals community in the passing of my granda Johnnie Walker, he was a Gorbals boy born & bred & we miss him so much.

Submitted by: Jodie
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09/03/09
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Does anyone remember my late mother,Betty Mullan,we used to live at waddell court,we moved there from Mathieson street,my ma worked part time in the st mungos bar Ballater st and also worked as a machineist in Twomax Bros old rutherglen road,she followed her dream,building a big house in spain and went to live there full time in 2001 but sadly she only got three years in the sun,we lost her 10/10/2003,and since then have found my self asking all these questions,why do we leave things so long,anyway enough of my rantings,if anyone remembers i would like to hear from them,regards to all on the site,Stephen Mullan.

Submitted by: Stephen Mullan
Falkirk
09/03/09
Email: csmullan@aol.com


FAO Pat Mooney. Hi Pat your letter was good and I applaud you, for years I have said the same as you on this site but the characters you mention still persist in talking about violence and gangs, and yes they all must be in their sixtes and seventies, I am 59 and cant believe how people cannot grow up, lets hope they get the message this time, either be pleasant and honest or stay away from us decent folk we want to share happy memories on this site. Pat very pleased about your letter and I am sure a lot of us on the site appreciate you writing it. Tam Craig

Submitted by: Tam Craig
Tollcross Glasgow
09/03/09
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F.A.O. Maureen Hay - Re. Relatives Mary McGowan have sent you an E/M which hopefully will assist your search.

Submitted by: Bill Shields
Perth Austrailia
09/03/09
Email: garbeta@iinet.net.au


Looking for Henry's, Devlins & Nelsons. Hello All! My Dad is getting old (73), and I wanted to get some info about how he grew up and if anyone remembers him or his family. He, his brothers, mother & father moved to London in the late 50's, but spent all of their youth in Govan, the Gorbals & Plantation. My Dad is John McLennan Henry, one of four brothers, Thomas, Frank and Robert. They were raised mainly by their maternal Grandmother Jamima (Nelson) Devlin, her nick name was "Cushy". Her husband William John Devlin, murdered in Ocober '29(I think he deserved it). They lived on Blackburn Street. Other addresses were Crookston St. Plantation St, Elder St and King St. My Dads parents were Mary (Devlin) Henry aka Molly and Thomas Henry. My Dad was in the Royal Scots Fusiliers from '52-'56 and fought in Malaya. He tells all sorts of stories from his childhood, some hilarious, some really sad. I now live in the States, Dad's still in London. God he's proud of where he came from. I just wondered if there was anyone out there that might remember him or his family. Thanks alot!

Submitted by: Theresa Cooper
Lynchburg, VA USA
09/03/09
Email: coopcst@aol.com


My grandad was Patrick James Boyle born 1908 and died in 1946 Eglinton Lane Gorbals in 1946.His parents were Francis or Frank Boyle and Rosey Montford or Mountford,Patrick was married to Mary Ann Kilkie.Does anybody have any memories of this family or know of any living relatives?

Submitted by: Tommy Boyle
Leicestershire
09/03/09
Email: tommyketchup123@hotmail.com


Im from glesga, born and bread, i came to england when i was six years old, but when i got here i had so many auntys and cousins i stayed a scott and am so proud of it, i love scotland and love to read all the diffrent storys i will never be English to all the scotts

Submitted by: lizbiggam
aylesbury
08/03/09
Email: lizbiggam@aol.com


I would love to hear from anyone who lived in parkhead cargiell street and went to quarrey brea shcool i was born ther and moved to england when i was six

Submitted by: lizbiggam
aylesbury
08/03/09
Email: lizbiggam@aol.com


hi alice lyon buckley sadly sandra died almost five yrs ago .rena stays in caslemilk and is fine i dont rem u glad to hear from u will pass on ur mess to rena take care

Submitted by: Sadie
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07/03/09
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hi, im looking to here from anyone who new my sister in law who lived in the gorbals peebles street they were the gallaghers father antony, son's francie,charlie, and mary, this was in the sixtie's.

Submitted by: peter o' neil.
geelong victoria
07/03/09
Email: gizzmo-1@hotmail.com


Auld Malki you say that I am a petty annoying person my opinions annoy you don't read them you are correct probably a lot of my posts are 50 years old but after all I only tell stories of things that have happened to me in my life I did leave when I was 25 but I lived life in those 25 years and up until 1989 I had been back 5 time for 6 weeks each time and I did see a lot of changes probably more than the people who never left their because they don't notice the changes for instance I seen these really ugly high-rise flats I may be wrong but I think they were the Q E 2 flats I was standing at my hire car when a young woman probably in her early 40s says "what the F are you doing here?" She didn't know me from a bar of soap I asked her if she knew where lawmoor Street was she really screamed up a couple of flights of these boxes something like "Maggie do you know where FN lawmoor Street " I know on my visit before then in Agyle Street I heard something similar coming fr! om a five-year old girl I presume to her mother to get her FN arse across the road quicker that was one thing in Glasgow that was quite common sure to cut a long story short I found lawmoor Lane facing the graveyard in the same block of flats so those people that live there some time inside a pigeon hole and didn't even know their own building never mind the Gorbals I must confess I don't think they were all too sure of me and thought I had just landed from the planet Mars in a strange vehicle and as for the barras it is a pity we don't have photos on here we have plenty of family still working in the barras and I can trace my family back to the 16th century "Boyle Earle of Glasgow " so we are truly Glaswegians just for the benefit of those who claim we are Irish but I am Australian with papers to prove that ! Do visit my homeland and have seen many of the changes and only write about my 25 years of living there not 50 years locked in a dookit people who leave Scotland to t! he far-off corners of the world who wouldn't wear a kilt to save their life. know more about Scotland than if they stayed there just one of those things AULD MALKY I think we should agree to disagree I did go to school with Ian Brady you can't blame his stepparents or his parents for what he'd done Peter manual killed my wife's best friend can't blame the parents either Jimmy is my young cousin and his brothers can't be blamed for what he does and his mother was the salt of the earth I think if everybody looked in their closets they might find a skeleton staring back at them by the noo 10 quid

Submitted by: 10 Quid
Oz
07/03/09
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Hi does anyone remember the warren family from the Gorbals

Submitted by: Lynda Duffy
Berkshire
07/03/09
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Hello to everyone on the site,is there anyone out there remembers or knows my ma,Betty Mullan,she used to work in the Saint Mungos bar on the corner of Balatter st and waddell st,she also worked in Twomax on the old rutherglen rd,i lost my ma in 2003 and canny ask her anything anymore,so i would love to hear from anyone who can remember her or our family name,kind regards to you all,Stephen.

Submitted by: Stephen Mullan
Falkirk
07/03/09
Email: csmullan@aol.com


Looking for descendants of the MULHOLLAND family. William my Great, Great Grandfather married in Rutherglen in 1893. My Grandmother, MARY CLARKE GAVIN was born in Hamilton in 1896 and died in 1977. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. Ann Williams

Submitted by: Ann Williams
Germany
07/03/09
Email: varkguy@aol.com


Pat Does this mean that 10 quid is not the flavour of the month any more as I quite enjoyed reading his stories better than the one line questions that seemed to be the common practice on this site maybe some of you should stop warning people about their behaviour I always thought that was the Webmaster's job on this site is that not true? As people tend to jump on the bandwagon and when they have nothing better to say just say " Keech! " a common Gorbals wording ! A big sook

Submitted by: A Big Sook
USA
07/03/09
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For my book " LOVE INTERRUPTED " Author Publishing A love story (1956 ) about a girl from Lawmoor street and a boy from Parkhead, Has anyone got photographs of Barrowland balcony looking dow at dancers and the entrance. The Lacarno Inside and entrance. Lawmoor st. BOOTS, tramcar. Barras. Royal Inf.Rottenrow Hospital entrance. All shot in the fifties. ( Credit only. ) It's a comedy. I'd be obliged. I'll send story outline by E-mail to contributers.

Submitted by: Carey Connor
Toronto Canada
06/03/09
Email: careyconnor74@hotmail.com


For Pat Mooney - well written, your thoughts are enhanced a thousand times!

Submitted by: Auld Biddy
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06/03/09
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GORBALS OLDIE, Thanks for your much appreciated note, I thought what you wrote was absolutely perfect, lets hope between the two of us we can get those isolated cases to Wake up and get on with their life. I was down South at a business conference a few weeks ago and there were a few German businessmen there , now if anyone should have a hatred of the Germans it should be me, because I am Jewish, but life is not like that for me, the English people made rather stupid comments about the Germans, but I have to laugh because it reminded me about the stupid few on this web that moan about religion in the Gorbals 30 years ago! Life is too short for all that, live for today because you cannot change what happened in the past, as far as I am concerned living in the Gorbals was the greatest experience of my life, the people were the salt of the earth, I take my children down there often still telling them my memories of Abbotsford place school. Thanks again, Melvin

Submitted by: M Bernstein
Glasgow
06/03/09
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There are two polish clubs in glasgow, "the polish cultural & educatunal club, 5 parkgrove terrace,glasgow" and the,"ex combatents club, woodside road' owen dougan.

Submitted by: Owen Dougan
Glasgow
06/03/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


Billy Malcolm hi there I really had no intention of answering your posts but you are to the heart of the matter very insulting you say you just like to come on this site and have a joke I haven't read one yet but telling somebody who's having their say to back off as a bit bullish if the other person is able to communicate on this site and I am sure they can stand up for themselves. Mick you know about the law ever heard of fiction the daily record had a site called Scots abroad that collapsed and died a death because of people insulting other people nothing like this site this is very tame and although I never wrote much I did read it - people can tell their stories without other people being so rude the best comment to give somebody is no comment at all. One person I have to apologise to AGNES this is the reason I never use my real name and always refused to give it because people start jumping on the bandwagon they know everything about my family sorry I was so rude but you did give me my just deserts back! 10 quid

Submitted by: 10 quid
oz
06/03/09
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I am trying to trace any photos of my grandfather James Boyle. He was a bookie as was his father i believe . He was well known in the calton and the gorbals He died at Ayr races in 1954

Submitted by: George Duncan
Calton Glasgow
05/03/09
Email: george.duncan@sky.com


JOHN MUIR... does anyone know of a JOHN MUIR who was born in Gorbals in the 1920's and spent some time in The Royal Navy in the 1940's before returning to Gorbals. Please email me if you have any info. regards Helen

Submitted by: Helen Beeby
Plymouth
05/03/09
Email: helenrussan55@msn.com


Hello to Christina Philbin,did you know, or where you an old friend of my ma, Betty Mullan? we lived at 24 waddell court, my da Harry died young only 31,i remember your family came from Mcneil street,do you have a son called james? cheers the noo,Stephen Mullan.

Submitted by: Stephen Mullan
Falkirk
04/03/09
Email: csmullan@aol.com


Christina We do have a Polish Centre in Glasgow-but I don't even have a name to so I think it would be best to put that whole thing to rest. On the subject of clothes -I think we can plot our lives through the special clothes we wore as children teenagers and adults. the size of the clothes definitely increases of course, with age but that is another matter!! My first recollections of clothing is of a pair of bottle green panataloons that resembled my grandfathers Glasgow Corporation trousers. It would not surprise me to find out that they were made from a spare pair of said trousers. Then, white buckskin boots and white sandshoes. They put out the windae after my mother whitening them in the summer. The first Sunday in May meant a new pair of sannies, new white ankle socks and a new ribbon in your hair at least. If one of my aunties were flush there might be a new wee dress made by a local dressmaker. Big birlie skirt- if the material was cheap enough. They bought loads of it.The rib! bons were bought from a wee shop on Rutherglen Road a couple of yards from Greasy Peter's. Christina or anyone remember this wee shop? -I loved all the different choices of coloured ribbon. Then we went to watch the May procession with all the girls in lovely white full length frocks and the page Boy bedecked in blue velvet. That's it for now be back with more clothes stories soon. Love Rita PS Could everyone please take note of what Mr Bernstein said. Enough is enough we are all bored with some of the stuff appearing in this fab website.

Submitted by: Rita Moffat
Glasgow
04/03/09
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I lived in Rutherglen Road. I went to Oatlands School before moving to Castlemilk around in 1963. I remembr Archie Archibald who lived around the corner and Kathy Barry from school. Also a girl called Pauline who I think moved to England around 1960 ish.

Submitted by: Cathy Jordan
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04/03/09
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Does anyone know a william woodside aka billy? he lived in the high rise flat with a jackie dickson. thanks

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Glasgow
04/03/09
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FAO. Hi yes I remember John Harvey, he lived at 3 Abbotsford Pl. Geoff Shaw lived in Cleland St.;; He became Convenor of Strathclyde in the 70s but sadly died, I think in the late 1980's, A great man who did A lot of good work for the people of the Gorbals. Nice to see someone give him A mention. ;;;Did you know Margaret Clark who lived at 10 Herbeston St, she was in my class at school? I think she had A brother who was in the scoutts. Remember the Wee cobbler's shop in the middle of the St?. Wee Blether.

Submitted by: Wee Bleather
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03/03/09
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Hi Ann Davies (kerr) nice to hear from you,yes I had a good Christmas and new year, yes it would be nice to keep in touch. Don't know if I mentioned in my last E-Mail to you that one of my husbands cousins was in a photo in a book called Shades of grey, his cousin is standing with his horse and cart changed days noo Ha Ha Ha anyway nice to hear from you Cheers Agnes ( Amb )

Submitted by: Agnes Burns
Lake district
03/03/09
Email: agbmu@yahoo .com


Does anyone know of the books written about experiences teaching infants at Polmadie circa 1950's. I don't know the lady's name but am keen to track down her books to read. Hope someone can help! Sal

Submitted by: Sally Black
Livingston
03/03/09
Email: salgor@gorsal.wanadoo.co.uk


Regarding the comment made about irish catholics not to be employed in the gorbals many decades ago,when we moved out of mathieson street and into waddell court,my neighbours where,the teehans,mcteighs,monaghans,mcglinshies, herritys,all good irish stock,all hard working families and all employed,the gorbals at that time was a cultural area where, to my memory,everybody got on,all colours,all creeds

Submitted by: Stephen Mullan
Falkirk
03/03/09
Email: csmullan@aol.com


Interesting to read about an Adelphi Girls reunion. I believe the School which I also attended is no longer in use or demolished? Can anyone enlighten me as to where the local girls would complete their Secondary education?

Submitted by: Annie
Bangor Northern Ireland
03/03/09
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Hey Georgie Porgie that wis a brammer, at least you didnae go at the grope, aye folks he is a good kisser. Would still love to hear from Sally Dodds, Kathleen Scanlon, Alice simpson , Alice she lived up oor close at 2 Snowden st before the çurrens moved in we had the Rankins ,the Kelly;s Bisland ,Martain;s and the sons were great singers.I was thinking about the shelters during the war , we had one in oor back yard and man some of the best times were had in the shelters , singing dancing all the local talent pies n peas, chips wi vinegar and of course there wis always a dumpling and whatever else could be rustled up. boy we sure did have a lot of talented people , and naebidy cared whit yi wur thats when we all stuck by each other, but there wis always some craw that wid start wi the fisty cuffs then best o pals next day. It jist goes ti show yi people made the best wi whit they hid .And how about them buskers tap dancers singers we used to sit oan the pavement getting entertained for a few coppers , see whit ah mean some people did not sit oan their duffs they did what it took ti survive , ah know it might sound daft ti some people , how could yi be happy when a war wis going oan . Well I guess that is all we had was to look after each other.Oh and oor tent hall wis oan Roseberry st jist doon fae John the pawn whose signature tune wis fur yi aloan that wis his motto took me years ti figure it oot .So deep n wide deep n wide my cup is full n running over . Was I think a p! rotestant thing but we got in for the paris bun and ginger and as long as you stied and sung it was okey. Oh and it wis always nice n waaaaarm . I see that †quid will be having his works and writting in the Glasgow museum is that no brilliant or whit. any hoo the noo best to all DAM oh and nae comments oan ho ah write it is all in good fun

Submitted by: Doris McIntyre
Slo USA
03/03/09
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My mum (Mary) Ann Farry Johnstone, born 1940 lived at 17 Baird Street, Townhead, with her mum, Mary Farry Johnstone and her mum, Margaret Mcinnes Farry then maybe Lennon, widower of an Alice Collins. Ring any bells anyone - they left Baird Street around 1955. My biological grandfather (who I'm not totally sure was married to my granny - oops) was a ? Johnstone of Black St, Townhead - he may have had a daughter born around the same time as my mum to another woman and the daughter was called Rene - also - was divorce common in the 40's and anyone know where any records are kept? Thanks for any ideas. Hope you are all well.

Submitted by: Eva Gardiner
Alloa
03/03/09
Email: eva46@sky.com


FAO Annie Martin, brilliant to hear that Janette was your sister, used to chat with her when she was hanging out the window, some great laughs we all had. Dont s'pose she will remember me, tho she should remember my sister Lana Thomson, thanks for that and hope all is well with the family....BRILLIANT SITE THIS!!!

Submitted by: Peter Thomson
Eyemouth
03/03/09
Email: petthomson@aol.com


To Billy Malcom, I read your letter it was very good, well done, I used to play fitba at the spare ground in cavendish st, I remember you, there were some great players the best being, Alan Yates,wee Jim Hall he was magic, Campbell brothers, Iain and Alex Mackie, the Elliots, Johnny Miller, Conshie, Big Budgie, he was a rite laugh, we used to play there after school till our maws would come and get us, I remember playin in broken glass, bricks stones the lot but we all loved it where are you now, you were always chasin skirt, you had a couple of older brothers I remember as well.

Submitted by: Harry Young
Castlemilk Glasgow
03/03/09
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Hey there, I'm looking for any info anyone may have on a relative of mine, William Woodside, aged late 40's/early 50's, he is also known as 'Billy'. All I really know of him is that his girlfriend was Jackie Dickson (late 40's I think) who had a son Stephen Dickson from a previous relationship. They lived in high rise flats in in Gorbals (I cant remember which floor but Ido remember they were pretty high up) Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks you in in advance. Oh forgot to mention, he also has a sister named Shirley and his mother's name was Isobelle. Thanks again.

Submitted by: Not Supplied
Glasgow
03/03/09
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Myself and sisters are researching our family for our mother. her name is mary kate(kathleen)reilly or brady, as she was known by both. yep confusing. she lived in and around kent road in the late 1950's. she married my dad patrick rushe in 1959 in glasgow. my grandmother was known as maggie, (margarette) brady. apparently maggies husband was killed in the docks, his name was sean(john)reilly, and was from creevey, milltown, co cavan. mother returned to ireland but granny and her sister (catherine) remained in kent road. if there is anyone who might know my mother/father/family please email me. thank you kindly.Mother is 71yrs old and is the last remaining relative on her side. thanks again Trisha

Submitted by: Trisha Rushe
Derry Ireland
02/03/09
Email: mortrisha3@hotail.com


TO Auld Biddy; Billy Malcom; and others. who have supported my simple letters, I did write to thank you Auld Biddy but recently three of my letters have nt been printed on the Gorbals web site, I was not told why. Ten Quid, your out of touch with Glasgow your stories are 5o years old, so why bother, as I said I have never left Glasgow, every Sturday I walk from the Shaws to the Toon, some times to the Barras, I get the bus back, I meet and see old friends so I am in touch with the reality of Glasgow, always have been, your petulance is noted, I never said anything wrong about anyone, just said I was proud of my scots ancestory, I am not stupid of course we all come from "we dont know where" but why did you have to interfere, I never said nought about your life as I said your too fond of other peoples business and try to disrupt them, I am 77, and a proud Glaswegian you wont take that away from me, I have read your history of letters well.... Billy Malcom, yes I did eat in Jack the Jews in Abbotsford place that was in the 60s. I dont think I know you, remind me please. God Bless all Auld Malki family?

Submitted by: Auld Malki
Shawlands Glasgow
02/03/09
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Anyone remember the vandermotten family,Nicholson Street.Billy,Fran,Catherine Or the Easton family?

Submitted by: margaret
welwyn
02/03/09
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would like to know relatives of mary mcgowan vocalist of the clyde valley stompers.....

Submitted by: maureen hay
glasgow
02/03/09
Email: hay.5@hotmail.co.uk


I am still lookin for anyone who knew my dad ronnie dewar or soapy he got killed in the gorbals it would be a great help as im struggling to remember memories of him if anyone has any stories it would be a great help thanks nicola

Submitted by: Nicola Dewar
Gorbals
01/03/09
Email: Nicolaadewar@yahoo.co.uk


Like to contact old friends, from Wellcroft Pl.( Cathie Mooney/ Hendry Edwards/ Elizabeth Cassady/ Diane Anderson/ Isobel Crum/ Billy Dixon/.

Submitted by: Wellcroft P1 Pupil
Not Supplied
01/03/09
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I Would like to contact Bessie Forbes or Jordan? sister of Margaret, Jack, Tommy, Myles, Jimmy, Frankie. I think she may have lived in the Pollok area? or Dumbreck

Submitted by: Margaret Forbes
Not Supplied
01/03/09
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I was born in the Gorbals but left before I was 7-years old!! My only memory is standing outside a pub called the Hi Hi Bar waiting on my father handing over much needed pocket money! Unfortunately I can't remember or find any trace of where exactly this pub stood. I'm sure I remember a Church nearby? I'd like to show my teenage daughters this little spot of personal nostalgia.

Submitted by: Wee Bob
Largs
01/03/09
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Have really great memories of neighbours, family and friends while living in the Gorbals and Oatlands. The kindness of folk helping others and most would give the shirt off their backs and go without themselves, to help somebody out. However along with the good comes the bad. I also have terrible memories of the violence I witnessed and it has stayed with me for life. People boasting on here about stabbing, taking razors etc. to people is sickening. Nowhere, do I see in these posts that they have any remorse for things they have done. Instead they put it down to, they were young, daft, and/or it was the thing to do, to join a gang. Bullsh*t! They made choices just like the rest of us did, decent folk got on with it and tried to work hard and make the best of the hand they had been dealt. One individual on here seems to be reliving his glory days as a thug. Reminiscing at this stage of his life (who’s now probably nigh on seventy) about all his victims and how tough he was, the injuries and damage he done, is pathetic. J.B. you’re an old man now, you’ll not be doing any more damage (hopefully) so gie up the ghost! There was a comment made on here that the cumbie took care of their own. Rubbish! Obviously whoever wrote that forgets or didn’t see this same cumbie beating the crap out of many of the poor folk who couldn’t pay back the money they had borrowed from these thugs and their money lending scheme. As for their loyalty to each other, that’s a joke! Several of them grassed up their “pals” and sung like Engelbert Humperdink if it meant taking the heat off them. These “hard men” were and are not hard men they were BULLIES nothing else, nothing more. They ran in a gang (because they couldn’t do anything one on one) and they victimized their own people, the poorest of the poor. Personally I believe KARMA is a boomerang and it will come back and get you, so hope all the thugs are ready to take their lumps. Another post in here talked of how a lot of folk are boasting about knowing Jimmy Boyle. Well I was unfortunate enough to have him as a neighbour when he lived in Rutherglen road in the Oatlands, I don’t boast of knowing him, as a matter of fact I shudder at the memory. It’s lovely to read all the good memories and laughs on here; many friendships were formed and have lasted a lifetime. I think though we also have to tell the whole story and for a lot of people it wasn’t just the struggle of poverty and a hard difficult life, but for some also being victimized by the cumbie bullies was the catalyst in breaking their spirits. I don’t miss the slums, filth, rats, poverty or violence, but I do miss many of the decent and great people, they are the absolute best and I’m happy to still have many of them as friends. Pat

Submitted by: Pat Mooney
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01/03/09
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I am trying to look for my birth father john mccrory (i am not sure exactly on the last name spelling). he lived in ireland for years and was with a woman called shirley cox( my birth mother) i heard he also had 3 daughters before me and that he came from the gorbals in glasgow and that his family are there, i know its a long shot but does anyone know anyone there with the same last name which may give me a starting point to look for him, they may be related to him in some way. in advance thanks for your help

Submitted by: David
Meath, Ireland
28/02/09
Email: davidgreycatering@eircom.net


F.A.O Nancy, not sure how you know me or what the connection is to the family, I would love to hear more from you. Marion

Submitted by: Marion Bidgood
Reading, UK
28/02/09
Email: mazzabidgood@aol.co.uk


Would love some photographs of the Gorbals around the 50's/60's, My granda had reels of film from the coronation 1953 taken in the back court of 148 Nicholson St, but cant seem to get a hold of them. You see he died aged 99 in June 1998. Was my link to the old Gorbals...pre 50's

Submitted by: Peter Thomson
Eyemouth, Scotland
28/02/09
Email: petthomson@aol.com


To peter yes Janette is my sister and I do remember John Tein and a few other names you mentioned

Submitted by: Annie Martin
Auckland, New Zealand
28/02/09
Email: sarius98@msn.com


Would anyone have come across Lizzie McPhail and her five children - between 1890 and 1902 (at least) she lived in a number of streets in the area...90 McLean, 365 Cumberland, 129 Alexandra Park St. I'd love to hear from you.

Submitted by: Helen
Darwin, Australia
27/02/09
Email: crawford.helen@gmail.com


Hi Donna Burke did you by any chance go to Strathbungo and do you remember Anne Brown from Herbertson St? She had a brother Robert.

Submitted by: Josephine Fairley (nee MacDonald)
Glasgow, Scotland
27/02/09
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F.A.O/Sandra Hughes,Hello Mary I have had Kate The Shrews Photostream which has loads of photos n fact there are about ten different sites take you ages to go through them all www.kate the shrew.com Crossans -Hellraisers of Castlemilk there are letters from Rosemary to her mother addressed to Commercial Road then later to Catlemilk Rosemary kept all her letters and her mother kept all the replies thought I was a hoarder she was worse than me I see someone else called Drew looking for Crossans so he will get lots of information from these sites hope you are feeling a little bit better Mary but early days. Christina.

Submitted by: Christina Philbin
London, England
27/02/09
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Well said M.Bernstein! I've also had enough of reading about the Cumbie, Irish Catholicism, Shebeens, and Gangsters! Great working class characters were born, bred, and worked in the old Gorbals. Male & Female alike. Dozens of close-nit pubs provided entertainment. Young lads aspired to be footballers, neighbours rallied round in times of emergency. There's NO other district in Glasgow quite like the old Gorbals! So to the ignorant who use the Forum to rake up old prejudice's - give it a rest. Oh, I lived in Camden St for over 30-years, and my sons still live in the Gorbals.

Submitted by: Gorbals Oldie
Glasgow, Scotland
27/02/09
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Hi Rita your emails always give me a laugh but thinking about you in the white dress with the rose in your hair made me burst out laughing.You seem to be looking for a needle in a haystack these things were never discussed in families then.We have a Polish Centre here in London so I suppose there is one in Glasgow have you asked for their help just a thought.I remember Lewiss being called the Polly thought you were a toff if you bought something out of there but later on it went downhill.Christina

Submitted by: Christina Philbin
London, England
27/02/09
Email: Not Supplied


FAO: Peter Thomson, you mentioned a few names that I remember well from the 40/60s in nicholson street.

Submitted by: Owen Dougan
Glasgow, Scotland
27/02/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


Hoping to find whereabouts of Deborah MacMillan formerly of Commercial Ct or Waddell Ct. for Adelphi old pupils girls reunion. Debbie would be about 53 years old.

Submitted by: Adelphi Girls
Glasgow, Scotland
27/02/09
Email: Adelphi545g@talktalk.net


Hi Christina Philbin I suppse I will always be looking for someone who knew my father-my mother met him in Dumfries when she worked in munitions during the war. He was Polish and that is all I know. I keep thinking maybe I would meet Frankie Mcguiness or somebody that would have information. My mother never spoke about it and I when she was alive I kinda thought she might say something but she was a very quiet, private person. As was the way then, my grannie became my mother and my grandfather my father. Now he was a character and a half. He created another version of "looking oot the windae wi a pllow and watching all the fights after the Pig and Whistle shut" He loved his drink and had a prankish sense of humour. He would delberately tell Big Wullie or whoever that wee Jimmy was chatting up his wife. Lay another couple of landmines in the course of his evening drinking, then come up the stair, tell anybody who was in the house that there were going to be some rare terrs when the pub shut. We would all then grab a pillow open the windie and have the best seat in the hoose to view the "entertainment" As you know we lived directly above the Piggie so we did have a grandstand view....... Big Emily, I have fond memories of too. She was always soooooo pleasant and as you said always smiling. Best of all she gave you more paris buns than Rita or anybody else- so you always joogled aboot tae get her to serve you. The motivation was a paris bun or a chelsea bun or two could be snaffled before you got home. I worked in Lewis's in the late 60's. My wee auntie Nell used to call it The POLLY-Maybe the Polytechnic at one time? Anyway... I worked in the basement in the Gardening Dept and theY made me the Rose Queen one year. Rose sales were good business and a big thing was promoting McCreadie's roses to the toffs. God when I think aboot it- they sent me to the hairdresser came out with BIG HAIR-we are talking major bouffant here, complete with a red plastic rose stuck in a foldy over french pleat. White flouncy frock with sticky oot underskirts and a wee red rose print all over it. Cool or what? I bliddy cringe thinking aboot it!! I think Mary Foster will be over the moon having her old pal to write to. You both shared one of the most interesting times being brought up in the Gorbals. Well I think so-the weans in 50 years time will not have as many memories to talk about in a web site like this............ Love Rita

Submitted by: Rita Moffat
Glasgow, Scotland
27/02/09
Email: Not supplied


Does any one remember mae and davie campbell who lived in Crown street?

Submitted by: Gorbals Girl
Not Supplied
27/02/09
Email: Not supplied


Doris Mc Intyre Just for you the biggest kiss ever xxxxxx from georgy porgie mmmmmm that tasted nice, I have not lost my touch, enjoy Doris, but I am sure if you had been kissed by me before you would never have forgot it, I must have slipped up my darling not kissing you before, because I kissed all the girls in the Gorbals ha ha and made them cry!

Submitted by: Georgy Porgie
Glasgow, Scotland
27/02/09
Email: Not supplied


Does anyone have any info on Edward, James, Rose or Ronald Crossan from the Gorbals and then Glenacre Castlemilk?

Submitted by: Drew
Glasgow, Scotland
27/02/09
Email: Not supplied


Would any old-timers out there remember my grandfather - Bert Stewart who was a part-time barman in the Bundoran Bar, Gorbals, late 1950's?

Submitted by: V.S
Kent, England
26/02/09
Email: Not supplied


Anybody remember the parrot from the malley arms?... well if you do i'd just like to let you all know he's still alive and well and has retired to a wee village just outside glesga.

Submitted by: Smokey's pal
Glasgow, Scotland
26/02/09
Email: Not supplied


F.A.O.Sandra Hughes I tried Crossans-Hellraisers of Castlemilk I got it alright the history of all her family are on this and lots of pictures of her mother and just the way I remember Rosemary and a photograph of Mrs.Crossan the Granny once again just as I remember her good luck.

Submitted by: Christina Philbin
London, England
26/02/09
Email: Not supplied


Hi Sadie Gibson I know your sisters Sandra and Rena.but I have been out the country for along while,Ihope they are ok asi havent seen them for years.Sandra use to live with Spiders mum in Waterside Street for a while and I lived in Turnlaw Street.Tam Lyons was also a pal of ours and a few others I cant remember the names.How is everybody getting on.They may not remember me but tell them I send my love.Thank you Sadie Alice.

Submitted by: Alice Lyons Buckley
Billingham, England
26/02/09
Email: Not Supplied


A wee message to wee Mick, a word of advise you should not put peoples name down on this site that associates them with being gang members or involved in violence, I for one deplored readin your article, it cannot be proved and is not what us folk want to read about, it was sick to think anyone could write such an article without being considerate of others, I know a little about the legal profession and you are treading on thin ice Melvin

Submitted by: M Bernstein
Glasgow, Scotland
26/02/09
Email: Not Supplied


FAO Ten Quid; I have chatted with you a few times about the old days, we both went to Bogie, when I write in I like to be friends with everyone, tell a few jokes and have a laugh, through this site I have met a few old friends which was good, got drunk one nite as well with one. So I am suprised you have been caught up on this latest moaning and bickering, if I was a Judge and Jury, then what I would say is, this started from Terry McNamee saying Irish persons could not get a job in the gorbals, this was answered by a lot of people as rubbish, which it is, then we had Pauline Boyce denouncing that Irish weere not members of the gorbals gangsters, I went to Abbotsford place and not one pupil was a member of the "CUMBIE", at Bogie there was no way of that either, so I dont want to prolong this for whatever reason but the Cumbie as even mentioned by a person called M connolly were all Bonny boys and catholics from Irish parents, WHY are certain people not want to admit! that? As for Malki I know you, you used to eat at Jacks in Abbotsford place, is that right? You were a gentleman! So Ten Q. back off from Malki he is a fine GORBALS gent and all he has said that his family date back 200 years, no probs there!! Please lets all get back to normal the Gorbals people do not want this moaning about Irish and scots, as far as I am concerned we are all one I used to play football at cavendish st spare ground, most of the boys were catholics but we all got on with each other and had some cracking games and injuries on the playing surface! Celtic and Rangers is not on this site, it is Humane beings most of us getting on life trying to get a bit of a banter going, please try and remember that, we do not need bitter senseless people. This is totally the longest letter i have ever wrote!! Billy Malcom

Submitted by: Billy Malcolm
Glasgow, Scotland
25/02/09
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does anyone remember reverend john harvey, was a friend of the reverend, geoff shaw who held a youth club called crossroads.

Submitted by: Donna Burke
Glasgow, Scotland
25/02/09
Email: hamill920@yahoo.co.uk


hi,looking for any pictures of herbertson street, anyone may have, my dad matt burke lived number 10. any pictures would be great. thanks

Submitted by: Donna Burke
Glasgow, Scotland
25/02/09
Email: hamill920@yahoo.co.uk


Message for catherine coll, matt burke was my grandad, his other brother was called chic and also alec, sadly all three are no longer with us. thanks for your story. donna burke.

Submitted by: Donna Burke
Glasgow, Scotland
25/02/09
Email: hamill920@yahoo.co.uk


Looking for my grandfather

Submitted by: Leslie William McNamee
Alice Spring, Australia
25/02/09
Email: niya.mcnamee@bigpond.com


Another sad loss for the gorbals the passing away of johnie walker RIP will be sadly missed

Submitted by:John
Gorbals, Glasgow
24/02/09
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FAO Annie Martin, did you live at the bottom of the same close that the MCNally's lived and were you related to Jeanette Martin. Does anyone remember the Carlton's lived up the same close as the Kerr's and Kilna's, there was Tam, Pat and Rose that I can remember of, there was also a McGuire family, pronanly the same close, my sister Cecilia was a flower girl sometime in the 50's. I also remember the Horn's, Gallacher, McGonigle's, Pringle's. There used to be a teenager by the name of John Tien of s'possedly German origin who used to throw cut-out german soldiers from his window I'm sure he lived above the Carlton's, can anyone else rememver any of these people.....Pedro (Peter Thomson)

Submitted by: Peter Thomson
Eyemouth, Scotland
24/02/09
Email: petthomson@aol.com


HI AGNES [AMB] HOW YOU DOING, SORRY I HAVENT KEPT IN TOUCH BUT IM HERE NOW. HOPE YOU"V RECOVERED AFTER XMAS AND NEW YR AND I HOPE SANTA BROUGHT YOU EVERYTHING YOU WANTED, LETS KEEP IN TOUCH REGARDS ANN

Submitted by: Ann Davies (kerr)
England
24/02/09
Email: Not Supplied


To Rita Moffat,the same thing happened to me some time ago when I wrote rather a long posting think I was taking too long then it happened the other night when I was writing something to Mary Foster before I could finish it just went whoosh-gone couldnt bring myself to write it all again.Dont know if Frankie worked in Dumfries she fell out with her mother so its posssible she did but I really dont know.I remember big Emily she stayed in the little red Co-op building it had a close in Mc Neil Street and one in Ballater St. she lived 2up in Ballater St.facing the tram car stop she lived next door to the Linstrums I used to go with Lilly Linstrom on a Saturday to Lewiss her uncle played the piano there.The last I saw of her was when I was at a dance in the Plaza when I was about 18 I met her then about 25years later I met her in a club down here James came back from the bar and said someone at the bar says she knows you small world eh! I remember big Emily had two sons bi! g strong boys years later she moved to the building along at the Shan shop she was always smiling I loved those Paris buns.I also loved looking out of the window cushion under my ribs on a Saturday night when the Pig and Whistle was coming out especially if there was a fight Happy Days! Christina

Submitted by: Christina Philbin
London, England
23/02/09
Email: Not Supplied


Could Mary Kelly get in touch with me again? I got an email recently but it was accidently deleted. She was a past pupil of St Luke's and had a school photograph??

Submitted by: Eileen Duffy
Co.Tyrone, Ireland
23/02/09
Email: rosemarystrawbridge@hotmail.com


Hi Annie Martin, thanks for your email and the post, those names you mentioned certainly brought back some fond memorys of Nicholson Street. regards, Owen.

Submitted by: Owen Dougan
Glasgow, Scotland
23/02/09
Email: g132yn@bushinternet.com


FAO.PETER THOMSON, Hi peter many thanks for your reply about ROSE we just have to hope its wrong , maybe someone can lets us know on this site. once again peter thank you, ANN

Submitted by: Ann Davies (kerr)
England
23/02/09
Email: Not Supplied


DEBBIE ,I dont know if it is the same person but Paddy Slowy the one I remember he used to run the sheebeen in Mathesion st and a couple of times ma da would bring him and a couple of the other drinking pals to the house on Snowden St. he was a stocky built man or it must have been all the clothes he wore to keep warm but he made a living regardless and was known as a hard man I guess you had to be selling the fags n wine or people would just mess you about. Mick you put it down very well who really cares cant change the past so get on with it. Hey Georgy Porgie ah jist wish ah wis wan oh the lassies you kissed being you said you were a great kisser so pucker up laddie and gies a big kiss all the best to every one DAM

Submitted by: Doris McIntyre
Slo, USA
23/02/09
Email: Not Supplied


How old are we all? why do i come on this site and each time find someone bitching? I am not a Gorbals man but my family are so i come here to find out about my origins and what it was like to live in the Gorbals not to find out whos dad can beet up someone elses dad,who has the hardest conkers,etc etc nah nah nah nah nah.Lets all grow up and use the site for what its for...Fond memories of times we cant get back,i left playground squables beind years ago!

Submitted by: Not Supplied
Not Supplied
23/02/09
Email: Not Supplied


Posting this again because I'm sure you great people must know something about my grandparents. Their name was Campbell and they stayed at 97 Wolseley Street, Oatlands from 1957 to 1963? My grandfather was Malky (Malcolm) Campbell and my grandmother was Doris (or Dot) Campbell. They have four "weans" Dorothy was the eldest, My mum (Mary) and then there was James and then Janice. Dorothy and Mary went to Wolseley Street School. My grandmother died in March 1963 when Janice was only 3. For one reason or another we never had any photos of my mum and we can't find any info re her past. I know it's a long shot but it's worth a try. Does anyone remember and are there any photos out there???? Please help!!

Submitted by: Jillian
Livingston, Scotland
23/02/09
Email: jhailstones@blueyonder.co.uk


To: Christina Philbin- Hi Christina thanks for your recent posting sorry to hear about your daughter and so is my mum. Could you throw any light on Karrie Bragg(Rose Crossans daughter) web site I cannot get onto it or her e-mail address, they seem to be withdrawn.Hope all is well.........Sandra

Submitted by: Sandra Hughes
East Kilbride, Scotland
23/02/09
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Funny how all this talk aboot the Irish and the Scots seems to get a few o the folks backs up. Some people would call it racisim but we Scots are above all that sh.... My auld Da cam frae the Gorbals but somewhere along the line he was of Irish decent. He never brought that up when he was called up for the war nor did he tell the Germans wjhen they put him in a prisoner o war camp that he really shoudnae be there because he was from the south o Ireland. He always told me that any country that was good enough to feed ye was good enough to fight for. He ran about the Gorbals with my uncle Danny Mccauley and married Danny's young sister Bernie. I was born at number 11 Gorbals Street. When the Billy Boys came to us from Bridgeton they never asked "I say old boy are you a Tim or a proddie" they just got their stuff out and charged us. Thank God for the older guys, Johnnie Knotts, Ronnie Feeney, Graham Sorley, John Gourley, Neesey, Charlie Screen, Jamie Fullerton, Jamie McCalumm, Gasser and Johnny Callaghen, All the lads from the YYC, and the Tiny and even some from the Toddler. It didn't seem to matter to me when some guys from the Calton were running at me with swords and hatchets where the guys that were stood beside me origanated from, as long as they stood beside me was enough for me. I wish yese would all shut up about where we came from and focus on where we are and where we are going. Wan thing for sure we won't be around for too much longer not any of us who remember the old Gorbals. So who cares where we came from as long as we were there, that's what really matters. As long as we were there. I don't go for all the Cumbie thing but the truth was the other gangs did come and we had to stand our ground. And we did stand our ground shoulder to shoulder Tims and Prods alike. So please don't insult me anymore I have a good family and a good decent life. I haven't hurt anybody in a lot of years and don't intend to do so in the near furture. So geesa brek and lighten up. Will Ye.

Submitted by: Mick
Glasgow, Scotland
22/02/09
Email: weemick@btinternet.com


I'm recently retired and lived and worked in the Gorbals from 1953 to 1982. I'm a Catholic and was never out of work when leaving St.Bonaventures in '58. The only RC's out of work were those who were workshy! Any Irishman/RC who's says different is talking nonsense!

Submitted by: James Connolly
Glasgow, Scotland
22/02/09
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looking for picture or info on the new era bar rutherglen road belive it was on the corner of gorbals st think somewhere near dixon blazes, my mums name was cathie kelly, her brother dick and sister ann, her mum was also cathie and her father was tommy,they left after my granpa had a stroke and came back to cumnock

Submitted by: Libby Cameron
Cumnock, Scotland
22/02/09
Email: libcatclaws@msn.com


I would like to pay tribute to george mcauly a real gorbals man who sadly passed away last week. george was a clyde supporter all his days and one of natures gentleman he will be sadly missed.condolances to zena and all his family

Submitted by: Martyboy
Glasgow, Scotland
22/02/09
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hi owen dougan I remember the Rizzas and the forsyths warrens mcnallys kilnas just to mention a few my parents lived there till 1963 then moved to castlemilk

Submitted by: Annie Martin
Auckland, New Zealand
22/02/09
Email: sarius98@msn.com


I read this Forum regularly and just love the various anecdotes from people who lived and loved the old Gorbals. I cringe with embarrassment when I read of Catholics from Irish origin claiming they couldn't get a house or a job due to their religion. What utter nonsense! Gorbals housed and gave employment to Jews, Protestants, Catholics, Pakistani's and other ethnic minorities since Gorbals grew from a small village to the early 90's. Take your bigotry back to Ireland and allow this Forum to be Sectarian free. Oh, I was born and bred in Lawmoor St. and married a Catholic. He was never out of work!

Submitted by: Lilly
Glasgow, Scotland
22/02/09
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I would love to hear from or know if there is a neighbourhood street map from the 1900-1945 era. My Gran and Dad lived in the Gorbals. Gran and Dad are David Glen Watsons I know there are Hendersons in Glasgow today but they may be via marriages related. It is the Watson brothers I would love to chase. My dad somehow managed to get some education. Broad accented and proud he has passed away. Would Auld Malky know of anyone from that time that may recall my Gran and his wife Agnes (Nesbit) she is in a cemetary with an elaborate headstone but that is another task on hand....

Submitted by: Shone Glen Watson
Brisbane, Australia
22/02/09
Email: careerchoice@live.com


to george kidd jnr who was you aunties and uncles we may be related if not sorry for the inconvience, bob.

Submitted by: Bob Kidd
Bristol, Englandland
22/02/09
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F A O Anne Niehus Hi Anne my father was your Grandmothers brother Owen Durkin so I guess that makes us cousins. I know Auntie Suzie very well and my cousin James who is still in Glasgow speaks to her nearly every week. My Daughter who now lives in Perth W Australia stayed with her and Thomas before she moved there.Thank you for replying and hopefully will keep in touch. from Margaret

Submitted by: Margaret Durkin
Newton Abbot, Englandland
22/02/09
Email: margaretboard@yahoo.co.uk


F A O James Neill Hi James, yes I know the Lyons family who lived in Surrey Street. James,Freddie, Margaret,Susan and Alice. Their Parents my Uncle and Auntie were Alfie and Agnes if this is the same family who you are refering to. regards Margaret Durkin

Submitted by: Jillian
Livingston, Scotland
22/02/09
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F.A.O. Amelia McKinley thanks for your kind thoughts I had a lovely letter from Bertie and everyone has been very kind.

Submitted by: Christina Philbin
London, England
22/02/09
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hullo "wee blether" .I went to Gorbals Primary from 1935 -43 we too had a horrible wee man "the school board" he would knock on the door with his pencil and ask the obvious question . my brother and i plunked and went to watch the smythies shoe the the big Clydesdale horses used by the coalmen until we were caught out . Reuben

Submitted by: Reuben
Israel
22/02/09
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I would like 2 hear from any1 who knew john [bunny] and paddy slowey

Submitted by: Debbie
Glasgow, Scotland
22/02/09
Email: dcsm@hotmail.co.uk


AULD MALKi I asked you a question and you never answered you said you could trace your family back 200 years does that give you more rights to be called a Scot than people who came from Ireland 50 years ago and had kids born and bred in the Gorbals next time you're in the library look up some books on the history of Scotland and you will find that people come from many different nations including Ireland lutheranians Poland Greeks Italians different religions too! maybe if you went back another 50 years you may have found that you were a Sassenach one-side of my ancestors came from Normandy bypass the north of Scotland and finished in Ireland then came to Scotland some of us come to Australia and become Aussies international. law says that if you are born in a country you have citizenship of the country my kids were born here so there Australians one of them plays the bagpipes and the other the banjo they don't talk about Ireland they talk about Scotland as I and my wife do. our great-great-grandparents were from Ireland and one thing we're proud of is to have a good singsong and enjoy life my dad did teach me is my name is Boyle not O Boyle as the tuechter police would arrest us just for having an Irish name, nowhere have I said that you should know me or my young cousin. you were the one stated that people you knew and rimed off the names now you say you don't know them your dad and grandad told tales out of school of other ones who are all gangsters and Irish make up your mind do you know them or not? you say that I interfere in other people's posts easy way to fix that just put the dates were I happen to say this so that everybody can read posts that you say I tell lies, you say that I should know you because your name is Malki and the only one I knew was daft Malki who become dafter when I was finished with him for putting cement in the radiator of my car "you must think your someone important" by saying that your name is Malki and I should know you the only Malki I knew was when there were a fight on somebody would shout "give them the Malki!" you say Brady was a child molester that's letting him off very very lightly he was a mass murderer of children molestation is evil killing was lowest form of life and I knew him as "Sloany" the Colleen you verbally abuse does not need my help, she is quite capable of handling herself and I don't know all this about 8 sisters has got to do with it unless you are one of them. there was another person in here who hated the Irish and was always given them stick its not you changed your name? Why in heaven's name would I like to imitate my young cousin life no way, "an imitation of life" my own has been a good life many troubles like everybody else, life is what you make of it I am sure, I was called Boyle at school and Cumberland Street and although I did like fighting and was a bit of a Nutter I did not take purple hearts and cheap wine for Dutch courage I seemed to! have that a plenty to write this to AULD MALKY 10 quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
22/02/09
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HI MARION, NANCY HERE I REMEMBER YOU WELL. SO SORRY TO HERE ABOUT YOUR MUM MARION, I DIDN'T KNOW. ANYWAY HOPE YOU ARE WELL SEE YOU AROUND.

Submitted by: Nancy
Glasgow, Scotland
21/02/09
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Does anyone remember the pawn in cumberland st - it was up the close? anne

Submitted by: Anne O'Neill
St.Catharines, Canada
21/02/09
Email: anne-.oneill-441@hotmail.com


I am living in Israel for past 60 years I was born in 71 South Portland st. in 1930.Ienjoy reading the stories and memmories of all ages, the amazing thing is we all have the same stories to tell, my granchildren love to hear of my childhood in the Gorbals (we left in 1946) and Ilove to tell them. Is the book NO MEAN CITY still around ,it was published in 1935 and was banned fo a long time.

Submitted by: Reuben Rachkind
Israel
21/02/09
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A note for Auld Malkie - Fantastic response to Ten Quid, and did I giggle a lot while I was reading your comments. He needs to be brought down a peg or two and yes, I agree, his story has varied over the last few years. He seems to take great pride in his knowledge of the "Gorbals Underworld" where others have more scary memories! I am Glaswegian and lived in Cramond Street during the first few years of my marriage to a man from Oatlands. We had the misfortune to live in the close next to the infamous Jimmy Boyle who, at that time (1966 ish) was moulding his criminal career. The most terrifying moment for me and my young family was his flat door being set alight by some opposing gang member and everyone in the surrounding closes having to leave their beds in the middle of the night!! Not such great memories for me, I'm sorry to say. However, I do have a soft spot for the Gorbals and most of the people who still live there! A lot of my old family are still there and I wish them well.

Submitted by: Auld Biddy
West Sussex, England
21/02/09
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HI IS THAT THE BUD FLANNAGAN WHO RAN ABOUT THE HELLS KITCHEN IF SO THE PAPPY DOC YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT DIED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO

Submitted by: Charles Screen
Glasgow, Scotland
21/02/09
Email: charlie.the.screen@orange.net


hi i would like to thank everyone who sent me an email some quite interesting and some a lot of mince as you see i put my name and email address why do people get so mad about people from irish familys being very proud of there ansesters we were told from our parents and grandparents about the hardships they went through yes scotish people went through a lot but you seem to forget the highland clearence we dont forget i am not a bitter person i have a pride in my ansesters and i will always tell my kidds the are scottish and be proud but they cant look back to any scotish ansesters or any highland hame so what is it you want us to do tell them what they are born here be proud but dont forget where you came from my mum and dad came from ireland and lived in the gorbals my father loved scotland he always said this country gave me a living he loved football any football he loved celtic but he loved any kind any team his favourite player was jim baxter he used to have him under his crusificks john hughes jinky willy henderson he loved football so dont think i have been brought up bitter i am just like a lot of people who are very very proud of the irish in us and the people who seem to have a problem well get a life or i might just get the irish gangsters on you ha ha

Submitted by: Pauline Boyce
Glasgow, Scotland
20/02/09
Email: pauline.boyce@ntlworld.com


I was born at 158 Florence St in 1952. My parents were George and Marion Hanton, they are both dead now and I wish I had listened more carefully to their stories. I am not sure how long we lived at this address, probably only a year or so. It has been lovely reading through all the comments about a place that I spent a lifetime denying, now I feel proud that I was born in the Gorbals. If anyone knew of my parents I would love to hear from you so I can fill in some of the gaps.

Submitted by: Marion Bidgood
Reading, England
20/02/09
Email: mazzabidgood@aol.co.uk


FAO Anne Davies (Kerr) Hi Anne, a friend of mine way back then was a guy called Roddy Gray whom I met some years later maybe in the late seventies and he had told me that Rose had been involved in a fatal road accident, BUT couldnt confirm if true or not, since it has been some time since I last spoke to anyone else from around our time early 50's/60's, so basically I'm in the same situation not knowing who is still around from those BRILL day's. LOVED Rose to bits and hope the info I got was wrong. Dont hesitate to contact me if you here different PLEASE!!!. All the best meantime......Peter

Submitted by: Peter Thomson
Eyemouth, Scotland
19/02/09
Email: petthomson@aol.com


My nan Mary Folan lived at 52 Dale Street in the Gorbals from 1918 - 1940. I was wondering if anyone remembers my Nan or my Nans Mother (Mary Clancy) or my Nans Dad (Martin Folan). Most have probably passed away but I thought there might be children or distance relative that might relate to my message. Fingers crossed

Submitted by: Phil G
West Sussex, England
19/02/09
Email: grahamp600@aol.com


Does anyone remember Paddy Duffy from the Gorbals. He would have lived in Moffat St. No. 407 to be precise?

Submitted by: Terri
Glasgow, Scotland
16/02/09
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Just wanted to know if anyone remembers transport cafe in Crown Street/Caledonia Road it was owned by Katie Russell who was my auntie. She had a big dog called Rhemus.

Submitted by: Catriona Smith (nee MacDonald)
Glasgow, Scotland
16/02/09
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Can you help Glasgow Museums with a new display? Does anyone remember Churchill Prams, located on Commerce Street? I am working on a new display about Churchill's at the Museum of Transport. We are looking for any information on the company, the people who worked there, and the Churchill Family. What would be really great would be photographs of the factory, prams being built, the office show room and the Churchill employees Any information would be very useful. Please email me if you think you can help with this new display. Cheers

Submitted by: John Messner
Glasgow, Scotland
16/02/09
Email: john.messner@csglasgow.org


Looking for old school friends.Donald Robertson from Sandyfaulds street,Johnny Adams of Rosyth st , Brian Giles matheson streetPhilip Strang of Naburn street hope somebody can help.

Submitted by: Tommy Kearney
Toronto, Canada
15/02/09
Email: tamkearney@mail.com


Hi everyone. I am from 84 Crown St in 1937 I went to St Francis then Holyrood. I loved The Crownie and Paragon picture house Saturday matinees. My heroes were Flash Gordon and Johnny Mac Brown. I got my pocket money by raking the midgies for beer bottles and jeely jars. I was an early Donald Tump midgie raker.

Submitted by: Mick Gallagher
Toronto, Canada
15/02/09
Email: dumpingram@hotmail.com


I was born in hospital st in 1947 and my first job at 15 was at david bennie&sons steel rolling mill hobden st springburn I worked there till I was nearly 17,I work as a furnace man,breaker, rougher, coger with the hook I left when we started working shifts.

Submitted by: Robin Hayes
Manchester, England
15/02/09
Email: bombpipe@hotmail.co.uk


Who rem the gibson sisters sadie betty (twins)sandra rena.lived thisle st then hospital st with our maw lyons

Submitted by: Sadie Gibson
Glasgow, Scotland
15/02/09
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Sara Macauley Family; I hope the info was of some help.The bar I sent should have read The Glasweigan. at Bridge/Nelson st. rgds Joe

Submitted by: Mr Joe Lynch
Church Hill TN, USA
15/02/09
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Does any one remember the kellys who ran the new era bar on rutherglen road trying to find photo of it.my mother was cathy ,her brother dick,her father was called tommy her mother cathy,and sister ann

Submitted by: Libby
Cameron, Scotland
15/02/09
Email: libcatclaws@msn.com


Thank you Auld-biddy for your kind words to my e-mail regarding my xmas-wish and looking for my son, also Is there any other woman that were in that unwed girls home in glasgow?that was in the 59s to be exact.

Submitted by: Pat Lynch
LA, USA
15/02/09
Email: glasgopati@aol.com


gorbals 1900/1933. doe anyone remember the allport or patrick family they lived in queens street then mcleod street in the govan and accross the river in partic. harold james allport was a ferry man . childeren were george,lucy, harold, sid, beatrice, florance and ellen.

Submitted by: Allport/Patrick Family
Yorkshire Dales
14/02/09
Email: m.allport@yahoo.co.uk


FAO: JOSIE hi read ur post, wen a wis at abbotsford 1959-1966,the wis MR GREEN.noo a thot the jannie